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Shia Islamic Argument for the existence of God

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RE: Shia Islamic Argument for the existence of God

March 12, 2016 at 10:32 am

So...not having read the whole thing, but I sum up what I did read as:
Abstract concepts exist, abstract concepts are immaterial and eternal.
Man is finite and limited so he couldn't have invented these abstract concepts...they pre-existed him.
Hence only an eternal immaterial being could have come up with such concepts.

Fails at the gate, given that concepts are all man-made.

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