RE: The Problem with Christians
March 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2016 at 9:16 pm by AJW333.)
(March 14, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:AJW333 Wrote:
https://thescrolleaters.wordpress.com/20...k-job-1-5/
This is what happens when you rely on bible-thumping bullshitters. You end up looking very foolish. Must be the story of your life.
http://www.ancient.eu/article/226/
Quote:The Ludlul-Bel-Nimeqi is a Babylonian poem which chronicles the lament of a good man suffering undeservedly. Also known as `The Poem of the Righteous Sufferer', the title translates as "I will praise the Lord of Wisdom". In the poem, Tabu-utul-Bel, age 52, an official of the city of Nippur, cries out that he has been afflicted with various pains and injustices and, asserting his own righteous behavior, asks why the gods should allow him to suffer so. In this, the poem treats the age old question of `why do bad things happen to good people' and the poem has thus been linked to the later Hebrew composition The Book of Job. No scholarly consensus exists on a date for the writing of Job (nor, for that matter, when the story related is supposed to have taken place) but many point to the 7th, 6th, or 4th centuries BCE as probable while Ludlul-Bel-Nimeqi dates to c. 1700 BCE. The Babylonian poem was probably inspired by the earlier Sumerian work, Man and His God (composed c. 2000 BCE) which, according to Samuel Noah Kramer, was written "for the purpose of prescribing the proper attitude and conduct for a victim of cruel and seemingly undeserved misfortune" (589). In this, the poem follows a paradigm of Babylonian writers borrowing from earlier Sumerian pieces as exemplified in The Epic of Gilgamesh where the Babylonian scribe Shin-Leqi-Unninni (c. 1300-1000 BCE) drew on separate Sumerian tales of the King of Uruk and formed them into the now famous epic.
Just more stuff stolen from older and wiser cultures.
If we accept that Job is pre-Abraham, then that puts it at circa 2000 BC. My money is on the Babylonians taking it from the Hebrews. But why should we assume they are linked anyway? It is an age old question -" why does God allow bad things to happen to good people?" I've no doubt that faith cultures all over the world have been asking this question since day dot.
(March 14, 2016 at 8:56 pm)abaris Wrote:(March 14, 2016 at 8:50 pm)AJW333 Wrote: If there is a God then it isn't ignorant to assume he designed the earth for mankind, in fact it makes perfect sense.
And the bolded part is all you got. Your whole substance boils down to If.
Yep, that's why we call Christianity a faith.