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Evolution of morality
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RE: Evolution of morality
(March 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(March 11, 2011 at 2:50 pm)lilphil1989 Wrote:
(March 11, 2011 at 12:52 pm)corndog36 Wrote: The applicable definition of "moral", I believe, is: Doing what is right, just or fair. (I'm open to other interpretations.)

None of those three principles (right, just and fair) are objective.

Depending on how you define those terms they can be.

I think you have to agree on definitions of terms, in order to have any meaningful discussion beyond semantics. I'm defining morality as "treating everyone equally" because that is what is "fair", and what is fair is "just", and what is just is "right". It is simplistic but conforms to common usages of terms.

Quote:The very idea of a fundamental principle of morality is logically circular.
You want to build a moral code based on a fundamental principle, but that fundamental principle has to be defined by your moral code.

Rather than "moral code" I should have said "code of conduct", to avoid confusion. The code of conduct would be based on the fundamental principle. But the question for me is; is it possible to identify a fundamental principle of morality? I'm not yet convinced that it is not.

Using my earlier example: "All human beings have the right to peacefully co-exist," as a starting point. Can anyone refute that that is a (or possibly "the") fundamental principle of morality?
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Messages In This Thread
Evolution of morality - by OnlyNatural - February 18, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by MajorTomWaits99 - February 21, 2011 at 11:54 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by OnlyNatural - February 23, 2011 at 2:08 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by ozgoat - February 24, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by MajorTomWaits99 - February 26, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by reverendjeremiah - February 26, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by DeistPaladin - February 24, 2011 at 6:44 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by reverendjeremiah - February 24, 2011 at 7:32 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by Captain Scarlet - February 25, 2011 at 10:21 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by reverendjeremiah - February 25, 2011 at 4:38 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by Captain Scarlet - February 27, 2011 at 9:25 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by OnlyNatural - February 25, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by MajorTomWaits99 - February 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by reverendjeremiah - February 26, 2011 at 2:30 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by Captain Scarlet - March 10, 2011 at 6:04 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 10, 2011 at 10:42 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by Captain Scarlet - March 10, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 10, 2011 at 6:10 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by Ashendant - March 10, 2011 at 7:28 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 10, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 10, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 11, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 11, 2011 at 12:52 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 11, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by theVOID - March 11, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 11, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 12, 2011 at 5:36 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 12, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 15, 2011 at 4:23 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by corndog36 - March 15, 2011 at 1:35 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by lilphil1989 - March 16, 2011 at 5:32 am
RE: Evolution of morality - by theVOID - March 11, 2011 at 1:30 pm
RE: Evolution of morality - by Theistsbane - March 11, 2011 at 2:11 pm

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