RE: Probability question: names in hats
March 18, 2016 at 12:30 am
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2016 at 1:56 am by Aractus.)
Here's the probability tree for 4 people:
![[Image: TWgubIs.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FTWgubIs.png)
So for Sn where n equals the probability that person n makes winning impossible for person 4, S1 + S2 + 2S3 = 1. S3 gives you both the probability of winning, and the probability that person 3 creates a loosing situation for person 4.
So:
S1 + S2 + 2S3 = 1
2S3 = 1 - S1 - S2
S3 = ½(1 - S1 - S2)
Okay, and here are the sums themselves.
S1 = ¼(1+1/3)
S2 = ¼(1/3)[3 + 3(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
S3 = ¼(1/3)½[2 + 2(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
Now do note that S1 only concerns itself with 4 being picked, whereas S2 requires that both 4 is not picked and 3 is not available to be picked next. So we could instead come up with a formula to compensates for this, we'll call it S2b that only cares if 4 is picked. It would look like this (I'll compensate for S3 while I'm at it):
S1 = ¼(1+1/3)
S2b = ¼(1/3)[2 + 2(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
S3b = ¼(1/3)[2½ + 2(1/3)½ + (1/3)½2 + ½2 + (1/3)]
![[Image: TWgubIs.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FTWgubIs.png)
So for Sn where n equals the probability that person n makes winning impossible for person 4, S1 + S2 + 2S3 = 1. S3 gives you both the probability of winning, and the probability that person 3 creates a loosing situation for person 4.
So:
S1 + S2 + 2S3 = 1
2S3 = 1 - S1 - S2
S3 = ½(1 - S1 - S2)
Okay, and here are the sums themselves.
S1 = ¼(1+1/3)
S2 = ¼(1/3)[3 + 3(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
S3 = ¼(1/3)½[2 + 2(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
Now do note that S1 only concerns itself with 4 being picked, whereas S2 requires that both 4 is not picked and 3 is not available to be picked next. So we could instead come up with a formula to compensates for this, we'll call it S2b that only cares if 4 is picked. It would look like this (I'll compensate for S3 while I'm at it):
S1 = ¼(1+1/3)
S2b = ¼(1/3)[2 + 2(1/3) + (1/3)½ + ½]
S3b = ¼(1/3)[2½ + 2(1/3)½ + (1/3)½2 + ½2 + (1/3)]
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke