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The origin of biology
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RE: The origin of biology
truth_seeker Wrote:
Simon Moon Wrote:Are claiming that mathematics and logic are supernatural?

Please explain...

@LadyCamus, I'm glad you're enjoying this Smile

@Simon.
Sure. I'll explain it below.

We agreed (myself and you, Simon) on the following definition of supernatural:

Quote:supernatural (or metaphysical, if you want) simply means a concept that exists outside the physical world.

concepts of mathematics (e.g. the mental concept of a differential equation, etc) exists outside the physical world. It exists even if you remove this entire world. Ergo, its a supernatural concept (as per the above definition).
Mathematics is a method we use to describe things. We invented it. It's an abstraction that requires some kind of physical process to happen. It doesn't exist if you remove every object capable of mathematical abstraction or processing. You're claiming the map is more essential than the territory.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Esquilax - March 17, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Esquilax - March 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Jackalope - March 17, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Esquilax - March 18, 2016 at 3:58 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by brewer - March 17, 2016 at 1:42 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by TheRealJoeFish - March 17, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by downbeatplumb - March 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Alex K - March 17, 2016 at 2:21 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by TheRealJoeFish - March 17, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by RozKek - March 17, 2016 at 2:22 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Alex K - March 17, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 2:26 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 8:54 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 3:25 pm
The origin of biology - by KUSA - March 17, 2016 at 8:26 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Minimalist - March 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:17 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 9:30 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Ravenshire - March 18, 2016 at 6:59 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 9:38 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 9:43 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2016 at 12:05 pm
The origin of biology - by KUSA - March 17, 2016 at 9:37 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:40 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by ignoramus - March 17, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 9:56 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Simon Moon - March 17, 2016 at 10:13 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 10:18 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 10:33 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Esquilax - March 18, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Alex K - March 18, 2016 at 10:24 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:48 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 17, 2016 at 9:51 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Mister Agenda - March 18, 2016 at 12:06 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:53 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 9:54 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by brewer - March 17, 2016 at 10:00 pm
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 17, 2016 at 10:10 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2016 at 11:18 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Mudhammam - March 18, 2016 at 1:06 am
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 18, 2016 at 10:56 am
The origin of biology - by LadyForCamus - March 18, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Nay_Sayer - March 18, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 19, 2016 at 12:00 am
RE: The origin of biology - by Esquilax - March 19, 2016 at 2:16 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by Ravenshire - March 20, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: The origin of biology - by ignoramus - March 19, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: The origin of biology - by truth_seeker - March 19, 2016 at 12:24 am
RE: The origin of biology - by RozKek - March 19, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: The origin of biology - by Ravenshire - March 19, 2016 at 12:14 pm
RE: The origin of biology - by robvalue - March 19, 2016 at 12:36 pm

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