RE: vote Donald trump!?
March 21, 2016 at 5:51 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2016 at 5:55 pm by scoobysnack.)
(March 21, 2016 at 11:31 am)Aegon Wrote:(March 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Anyone notice the left calls free speech shutting down the speech of others? It seems have really become the standard operating procedure for the extreme left in America. It's also over college campuses, but it's really a minority.
I agree, but to an extent. College campuses on average are truly places for free speech, not just liberal or "P.C." speech. We had a BLM protest on my campus, and we've also had a protest in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood. Both sides can be vocal, but a large number of campuses are predominantly liberal, so that's how the student body's voice will come across. Nobody is shutting down the speech of others. That whole "safe space" thing really isn't common, and most students I believe really want free speech for any ideology.
What would be something that you'd want to say that you think the left would "shut down"?
scoobysnack Wrote:Now we have the same thing happening at Trump events. They shut down his Chicago event, and blocked streets to prevent people from getting to Trump Arizona. What they are doing is denying Trump and his supporters their constitutional rights of free speech and assembly. This isn't a secret conspiracy either. This is their stated goal, and there are multiple movements openly organizing efforts to do this. This is why the left are so crazy. Instead of holding their own rallies, they try to shut down everyone else's.
Since the protesters are not the government, no, they are not denying Trump or his supporters their constitutional rights. But I agree with you here again, but also to an extent. I think if people were doing this to Bernie's rallies or Hillary's rallies the average person would be outraged. But guess what? Trump isn't like Bernie or Hillary. Unless you plan on voting for him, the odds are strong that you hate him. He's a polarizing candidate. He runs on a platform of hatred, he gets his power by antagonizing. He's as far right as a far-right populist can go before you could call him a neo-fascist. And it looks like he'll be the Republican nomination for President of the United States. Are you shocked he's facing this level of protest?
scoobysnack Wrote:Ends up looking like spoiled brats who probably don't even know what they are fighting for. It's almost like it's the trendie thing to do and the movement of the moment to latch on to, in an attempt to prove how PC they are likely aided by their white guilt.
Not wanting Donald Trump to be President has nothing to do with being "trendy", has nothing to do with "PC culture", and certainly has nothing to do with "white guilt." It means that they do not want this inexperienced, incompetent, temperamental baby of a man running the country.
You make some reasonable points. The examples of shutting down free speech on campuses haven't really been in the corporate news, but have been covered in the independent media. Yale university is an example where two liberal professors apparently were not liberal enough, and said it was not ok to shut down Halloween parties because it would be restricting people's free speech of dressing up in costumes even if they offended some people. Well that was interpreted as an act of violence by creating an atmosphere where people felt threatened, so they demanded they be fired, and they ended up resigning I think because the students wouldn't give up until their demands were met. The students don't think college is a space about creating an intellectual space, it's about creating a home and a safe space. This is the future of America people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JV...vek5kbNf3Z
Now we have radical leftists demanding CNN remove all political analysts from covering Trump. This is what we are dealing with nowadays. The left used to be all about being tolerant and supporting free speech. Now it's all about shutting down speech they don't agree with. 20,000 supporters of colorofchange.org have sent emails according to them.
http://www.infowars.com/radical-leftists...-campaign/
It's just getting bizarre. Another example of a black cop that decided to go to a Trump event in Arizona just to see what was going on since he heard everything the media is talking about. What he found was almost the opposite. He talks about his experience of protestors dressed up as KKK, swearing at young children, yelling at everyone who was there to see Trump, and grabbing people trying to start fights. Also found that most of the Trump supporters were very peacefull unlike the hate filled protestors. After listening to Trump he left with a whole new perspective and realizing the media is misleading their viewers about Trump speeches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjyxZ7HO7aY