(March 25, 2016 at 11:17 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 23, 2016 at 1:25 pm)RozKek Wrote: I have heard and seen many theists ask "How did the universe come into existence? Where did the first cell/matter come from? Where did the Big Bang come from? etc" something along those lines. (Although that is a really weak argument and isn't evidence at all.)
You say that is illogical, but really, if you think about it, how logical is it that the first thing to exist/be is insanely complex with super intelligence, with the ability to do exactly everything, see everything, even change/break the laws of the universe (omnipotent). Pretty much do everything he/she/it wills.
I am curious about your "if you think about it" statement here.... could you please expound on this more, and why you are questioning "how logical is it".
I don't understand what you want me to expand on "if you think about it". It's quite simple. Think about if it is logical that the first thing to exist/be is insanely complex with super intelligence, with the ability to do exactly everything, see everything, even change/break the laws of the universe (omnipotent).
"And I am questioning how logical is it?" because many theists seem to think the existence of everything is illogical without a God and I am asking you theists how logical is it that the first thing to exist/be is insanely complex with super intelligence, with the ability to do exactly everything, see everything, even change/break the laws of the universe (omnipotent).
I don't think I can be more clear than that. I want you to answer how logical it is from your perspective, and good points/arguments to why it would be logical, it seems like you're trying to dodge my question.