RE: The Problem with Christians
March 26, 2016 at 9:58 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2016 at 10:05 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(March 25, 2016 at 9:41 pm)AJW333 Wrote:(March 25, 2016 at 12:26 am)Stimbo Wrote: Which is why randomness isn't the only factor. You've had this explained to you nearly 10^18 times. I think you've demonstrated the worth of your science degree by now. You really should quit before you embarrass yourself further; hell, I think we're all embarrassed for you at this point.
From the Atheist in Chief Prof Richard Dawkins,
"All appearances to the contrary, the only watchmaker in nature is the blind force of physics, albeit deplored in a special way. A true watchmaker has foresight: he designs his cogs and springs, and plans their interconnections, with a future purpose in his mind's eye. Natural selection, the blind unconscious, automatic process which Darwin discovered, and which we now know is the explanation for the existence and apparently purposeful form of all life, has no purpose in mind. It has no mind and no mind's eye. It does not plan for the future. It has no vision, no foresight, no sight at all." http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/watchmak.htm
According to him, the process of natural selection is completely random. The survival of any given organism may be benefited by certain mutations to the DNA but this is in no way responsible for improving the odds that the next mutation will be beneficial. You still have to have an absurd number of successful mutations to get anywhere.
You're quite right that a mutation which is successful doesn't mean that the "next" one (I presume you mean the ones that occur in its offspring) will also be beneficial.
The problem is, that's irrelevant because you're thinking in linear terms, not in terms of a gene pool. If a beneficial mutation helps an individual reproduce better than the others in that gene pool, then that gene will become more prevalent in following generations.
How many cousins do you have? I ask because in only two generations, in which my grandmother had six children, each of whom had a minimum of three children, I have acquired over 20 cousins, all of whom would carry the mutation that I acquired (ETA: from grandma). That's in TWO generations! Imagine a genetic mutation which occurs in my great-great-great-grandmother, and how many people now carry it. If only a few of those descendants then go on to develop harmful follow-on mutations, then they will be selected out of the gene pool as they produce fewer offspring.
That's why the process is blind, with no goal in mind except to reproduce.
Please do us the favor of ceasing to manufacture straw-men of evolutionary biology, and go learn some more instead of pretending you know. It's clear to most of us that you only skim materials in order to push confirmation bias to its limit.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.