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The Liberal Section (USA EDITION)
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RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION)
Adrian Wrote:As for the libertarians you know, it is a case of them calling themselves something they are not. A libertarian by definition cannot be authoritarian (I believe that is the word you meant). Yes, there are lots of different beliefs held within libertarians, as is true of atheists as well. However, like with atheists, there is one common belief:

"all advocate either the minimization or the elimination of the state, and the goal of maximizing individual liberty and freedom."

So if these people are authoritative, they simply cannot be libertarians, just as someone who believes in God cannot be an atheist.

This is also known as anarchy, but even without government: there is still authority, and also still the possibility of being authoritarian. You may favor personal freedoms a great deal and also fervently believe that the best way to posses these freedoms is under the protection of the powerful/respected/leader(s). Authoritarianism does not necessarily require an absence of personal freedom, only the existence of authoritarian ideals. A government can be minimized and also strict where it does 'intrude' upon the people. Every law is authoritarian.

Much as I dislike people that consider themselves strongly authoritarian: please don't so strongly misrepresent their position. And I don't like libertarians either, but I also try to avoid misrepresenting them when I know what they are.
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The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 11, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by binny - March 11, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 11, 2011 at 6:03 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Ashendant - March 11, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 12, 2011 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 13, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 12, 2011 at 10:40 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 12, 2011 at 11:02 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 12, 2011 at 11:24 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 12, 2011 at 11:38 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Ashendant - March 12, 2011 at 3:48 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 12, 2011 at 4:11 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 12, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 12, 2011 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 13, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 13, 2011 at 3:14 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 15, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 16, 2011 at 11:17 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 12, 2011 at 11:50 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 12, 2011 at 11:58 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 13, 2011 at 8:45 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Ashendant - March 14, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by binny - March 14, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 14, 2011 at 11:42 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by padraic - March 14, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2011 at 3:05 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 15, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 15, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 15, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 16, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 16, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 16, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 16, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 16, 2011 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 17, 2011 at 5:03 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 17, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 18, 2011 at 2:46 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 18, 2011 at 5:51 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 17, 2011 at 6:51 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 9:52 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 3:39 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 17, 2011 at 3:46 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Autumnlicious - March 17, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 17, 2011 at 4:41 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Autumnlicious - March 17, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 6:23 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 17, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 17, 2011 at 10:29 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 17, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Autumnlicious - March 18, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 18, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 18, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Tiberius - March 18, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 18, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 18, 2011 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 19, 2011 at 1:20 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 19, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 20, 2011 at 2:35 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 20, 2011 at 3:51 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 20, 2011 at 4:33 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 20, 2011 at 9:08 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2011 at 5:02 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 19, 2011 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by LastPoet - March 19, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 19, 2011 at 9:42 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 19, 2011 at 11:38 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by LastPoet - March 19, 2011 at 9:46 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 19, 2011 at 9:50 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by LastPoet - March 19, 2011 at 10:06 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 20, 2011 at 8:59 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 9:21 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by theVOID - March 21, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 20, 2011 at 10:41 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 20, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 11:13 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 20, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 20, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by fr0d0 - March 21, 2011 at 3:48 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 22, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 22, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 22, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 22, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 22, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 22, 2011 at 9:32 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - March 22, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - March 22, 2011 at 9:46 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 1, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 2, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - April 3, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 4, 2011 at 12:13 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 4, 2011 at 2:41 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - April 4, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - April 14, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 15, 2011 at 2:53 am
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by HeyItsZeus - April 15, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by Violet - April 15, 2011 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Liberal Section (USA EDITION) - by padraic - April 16, 2011 at 5:36 am

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