(March 31, 2016 at 1:38 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:I agree, let's not appeal to authority. Although some of the other people seem to want me to list scientists who support ID. Lets appeal to the evidence:(March 31, 2016 at 10:20 am)athrock Wrote: Is that true, Lady?
"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics...and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost beyond question."
- Fred Hoyle, Astrophysicist and Cosmologist, Cambridge
"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all...it seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature's numbers to make the universe. The impression of design is overwhelming."
- Paul Davies, Physicist, Recipient of the Templeton Prize, the Kelvin Medal from the UK Institute of Physics, and the Michael Faraday Prize
"Wherever physicists look, they see examples of fine tuning."
- Sir Martin Rees, Astronomer Royal of Great Britain, Fellow of Trinity College, Emeritus Professor of Cosmology and Astrophysics, Cambridge
"The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."
- Stephen Hawking
So, you can mock Atlas and AAA if you like, but apparently, they are in good company when they promote the Intelligent Design theory.
In light of this, perhaps you should take a look at how ridiculously convoluted your own thinking is.
Lol, congratulations on your MASSIVE appeal to authority! So because there exist scientists out there who believe in God, therefor God? You're going to have to do better than that.
Glycolysis is thought to be the most primitive metabolic pathway in existence. Glycolysis (in most organisms, there are variations) requires 10 different enzymes to effectively catalyze the breakdown of glucose to pyruvate. All of them are necessary with the possible exception of triose phosphate isomerase. If you are missing one enzyme, the reaction no longer proceeds. Then you are unable to make pyruvate. How do you think these 10 (or 9) enzymes managed to gradually arise independently of one another when the absence of one prevents the formation of pyruvate. In addition to this, the cell needs to have pathways in place to further catabolize pyruvate to form high energy potential molecules. Which option is better from a scientific point of view: 1) All the enzymes formed at the same time (because they are all necessary to do the job), or 2) they gradually formed independent of each other in a way that allowed them to work together while the job that they had to complete was somehow accomplished by some other unknown/unobservable mechanism.
One of those options is highly speculative while the other is consistent with observations.