(April 1, 2016 at 11:53 am)Esquilax Wrote:Radically different?(March 31, 2016 at 10:28 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Entropy and disorder also have associations with equilibrium.[9] Technically, entropy, from this perspective, is defined as a thermodynamic property which serves as a measure of how close a system is to equilibrium — that is, to perfect internal disorder.[2] Likewise, the value of the entropy of a distribution of atoms and molecules in a thermodynamic system is a measure of the disorder in the arrangements of its particles.[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%2...isorder%29
So, wait: now you've switched again. When you first mentioned entropy I gave a lengthy response detailing how thermodynamic entropy doesn't apply to the Earth or anything on it, and in reply to that you told me you were using the definition of entropy as used in information systems, which is completely different. Now when pressed, you're back to using the thermodynamic definition as though you hadn't used a different one just a few days ago and acted completely mystified that I would respond to it using terms applicable to the thermodynamic model. Can you maybe stick to a definition, instead of swapping between them at random?
Are you even aware that entropy is a radically different thing, depending on whether you're discussing information or thermodynamics?
"There are close parallels between the mathematical expressions for the thermodynamic entropy, usually denoted by S, of a physical system in the statistical thermodynamics established by Ludwig Boltzmann and J. Willard Gibbs in the 1870s, and the information-theoretic entropy, usually expressed as H, of Claude Shannon and Ralph Hartley developed in the 1940s. Shannon, although not initially aware of this similarity, commented on it upon publicizing information theory in A Mathematical Theory of Communication. This article explores what links there are between the two concepts, and how far they can be regarded as connected." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_in...ion_theory Emphasis mine.