(April 2, 2016 at 12:33 pm)athrock Wrote:(April 2, 2016 at 9:01 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well until you have proven God and his attributes, special pleading still applies. Because until you have proof, you are asserting that there is something that doesn't have to play by the same rules as everything else.
Ah...the ultimate "Get Out of Jail Free" card for atheists.
Prove God exists first, and then we'll talk.
(As if we can't have an intelligent conversation about God even if He doesn't.)
But whether I can prove God exists or not is irrelevant because the attributes of God which we are considering can be evaluated either way. IOW, we don't need an ACTUAL God in order to discuss the omnipotence or omniscience of a theoretical god, do we?
I also notice, that it is diverting away from the topic; which was if it was special pleading, to say that because of authority and position, that something may be justified for one and not another.... they're just trying to get you away from questioning the initial claim. I notice this often, that it is difficult to have a discussion, because of all the bouncing around.
