(April 2, 2016 at 12:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Did I read this right, that if I gave you some particular life form, it would be impossible to tell if it was designed or not? Yet your whole argument is that humans are designed?
Why do you keep asking me to define what I think things look like? I'm not making any claims. You know that ridiculing me isn't the same as defending your position, right? It's called deflection, or the "tu quoque" fallacy. You're making a claim, and I'm pointing out why the claim is flawed. If you can't cope with that, it's probably because I'm right. I'm not claiming to be able to identify "designed" or "non designed" life.
I don't even know what you mean by "designed". I've asked for clarification and received none. I don't know what you think happened. Creationism? Guided evolution? A mixture of the two? I'm starting to suspect you guys don't even know what you believe.
I think it's been demonstrated quite thoroughly that this whole claim is entirely bogus, from every angle it's been approached from. We haven't even established what the claim is. If you have to keep it so elastic as to cover any convenient scenario, you may as well claim nothing.
It's not like I'm claiming it to be 100% fact, I just think it is a reasonable interpretation to think that it was designed. If you're saying we can't interpret evidence without proving your interpretation to be correct, then science would halt. Designed life would have characteristics that can be explained only by the result of intelligence.
My main goal on this thread is not to prove God's existence, but to show why it is not completely irrational, illogical, and/or delusional to believe that life was designed. It bothers me when people write things like kitan did in the opening statement of the thread.