Jewish Geneology: A Fraud?

[TheRocketSurgeon]

I've been mentally running down a list of problems that would be created by the PB, if it literally was evidence of a massive Hebrew slave population in Egypt at the time-period the story claims.

Man your memory must be as long as your little... toe.
We've already had a discussion that answer all your concerns based on the information found in the 'Patterns of Evidence: The exodus' Documentary.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3464018/
Remember you can watch this on net flix.

Oooooh, a little-dick joke. I get it! You're very clever.  

And as we already explained to you, your "documentary" is bunkum. Read a Christian reviewer's analysis of the film:

http://biblicalremains.com/another-broke...-evidence/

So yeah, I remember that discussion; I also remember that we explained to you it was a crackpot video universally scoffed at among academics in that field, including those who are doing serious work to try to show the Exodus happened.

1) The first and most obvious is that Egypt owned the entire region of Canaan at that time, and were engaged in battles in the northern part of that land to keep out the Hittites. Not only does that mean that the Egyptians would have brought slaves back from that region (making it hardly surprising that you'd find Semitic names on their list), but it means that if we accept the story, the entire Exodus was half a million Hebrews [ETA: I'm not trying to give a definitive number, here... only using a randomly large number, since the Bible claims just one of the tribes had more than 600,000, if I recall correctly] running from Egypt to Egypt, a bit like saying "We fled from the United States and went to Alaska!".

"After God smote it with 10 plagues which took the Egyptians acouple hundred years to recover from (The Time between the middle and new kingdoms.)

Um, nope. The intermediate period between the kingdoms takes place "acouple hundred years" before the time period we're discussing (unless you use the "revised chronology" that places the proposed Exodus 1000 years prior to the traditional dates, in which case it's several hundred years after). The time period under discussion is during the New Kingdom, in which Egypt's power and military control of territories reached their greatest height, and they were in combat with the Hittites north of Canaan, as I described. You don't get to just randomly shift timelines around to suit your agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kingdom_of_Egypt

2) Even if we give the benefit of the doubt and say that the ten names (out of ~90 on the list) were ONLY used by the Hebrews, it begs the question of who were these non-Hebrews?

What makes you think the other names were non hebrew names? They were common names. one can no more discern a persons heritage if he adopts or more likely is given a name by his master. (Toby/Kunta-kente')

Then what do they prove at all? Especially given the fact that one of the "Hebrew" names on there is Ashera, who was a goddess of fertility commonly worshiped by women in the Semitic regions at the time. How many African slaves were named after gods and goddesses? (Thena, Zeus, Hercules, etc.) Your answer degrades the usefulness of the BP in demonstrating the presence of specifically Hebrew slaves in that region, rather than helping it. I was trying to give maximum benefit of the doubt.

Were there as many of their people in Egypt as there were Hebrews?
Were they let go along with the Hebrews? Did they suffer as the Egyptians did in the plagues? Why don't we see any stories from those peoples about their time in captivity in Egypt?

Your questions wrongly presuppose 'freedom' in emperial Egypt under second kingdom rule. After the famine and the consolidation of egypt under one 'pharaoh' Everything and everyone one belonged to one man. In a sense the whole nation of Egypt was a slave. (Because the famine was excessively great and long everyone sold everything they owned to Joseph's Pharaoh and when they ran out of lands and live stock, they sold themselves... Everyone. Before that Egypt was sub divided into city states with controlling regents or governors.)

That said not all slave tasks/life styles were the same, Some under pharaoh lived very well and were thus provided a very good life for their abilities and efforts.

That said all Slaves would not consider themselves slaves, but merely Egyptians just one or two generations into captivity, as Everyone (all Egyptians) were owned by the state.

Um, wut? Where are you getting this crap? Are you just swallowing what one discredited "documentary" maker tells you?

3) Even the article admits the document, being from the southern regions of Egypt, and thus far from Goshen (where the Bible claims the Hebrews were living while enslaved), doesn't give evidence of the Goshen populace.

No but the excavations mentioned in the movie puts the number @ 3/4 of a million people, it at the time of the exodus, but it also mentions 25 to 30 other small towns and villages in the immediate region. All of which have been documented to be semetic as well as the city in goshen.

*sigh* I guess you are. Can you point me to a scholarly article, rather than a crackpot video, which shows actual archaeological evidence of any of this? You sound like a "faked the moon landing" nut-job right now. Further, even if it was true, "Semitic" is a HUUUUUGE category. What you're saying in that sentence, above, is "We found evidence of European settlements in the new world, therefore it was definitely the Italians."

I'm wondering whether they were all released at once, or if the Goshen population pillaged their way through half of Egypt to get to this southern group before turning west toward the Red Sea (as the northernmost tip of the Red Sea requires a walk SOUTH of nearly 200 miles before turning east to reach the northernmost tip of the Gulf of Suez... check a map. I've seen speculation that they went into the Sinai and then turned south to reach the tip of the peninsula before crossing the Gulf of Aquaba into what is now Saudi Arabia, where the famous "parting of the sea" supposedly occurred-- the problem being that the Egyptians militarily controlled the Sinai, as well, and you're high off your ass if you think they couldn't catch the "escapees" before the far side of the Sinai peninsula.

What makes you think the wealth of egypt was spread out over the whole country side? As with most Ancient cities Egypt's wealth was concentrated in it's capitol. Why would Pharaoh want his wealth spread out in regions where his rule and control was not as tight or absolute as in his capitol city?

I didn't say the wealth of Egypt was spread out over the whole countryside, but it does follow that there would be some wealth spread out among regional governors, wealthy merchants, etc. However, NONE of that was my point, with the "pillaging as they go" comment. My point was that they would have had to pass through/near the majority of Egyptian population centers along the river for several hundred miles, en masse, before even reaching the region where the BP was located (relative to Goshen) and turning east to reach the northernmost tip of the Red Sea. And Pharaoh's power WAS concentrated in that southern center, after the conquest of Nubia and the establishment of a power-base in the upper/southern half of the kingdom (and all along the river in general).

As I pointed out, apparently in vain, Egypt was at the height of its military power during the traditional dates of the Exodus/Conquest, and they maintained control the Sinai region utterly until the arrival of the forces of Alexander (who conquered Egypt and then left the lands in their control, under his administrators) and finally the Romans.

You're going to have to address the fact that your hero documentarian is a crackpot who is called a crackpot by every serious scholar in the field, including Christian ones. If you rely on that information to assert your points, you can expect to be treated like someone who wears a tinfoil hat and rambles about alien mind-control.