(April 14, 2016 at 11:57 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(April 14, 2016 at 12:51 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: But he will say the opposite tomorrow. Trump will say whatever he thinks the person in front of him wants to hear and will ignore it when if he gets into office. he is an untrustworthy liar.All politicians are liars and crooks. If Trump gets rid of the illegal aliens he will be the best President in 200 hundred years. The other dummies want to import millions more of them.
Bullshit......... Now unless you yourself are willing to advocate for a one family dictatorship, say like Un, or Cuba exactly what would you set up? I love how people bitch about government, but never pony up with a system they think will work.
Now how do politicians get votes? By telling voters what they want to hear. So who puts them in office? WE DO, so how are you not responsible yourself?
I hate to tell you this, but there is no such thing as a utopia. When you look at the history of revolutions, that go from an open society to a closed society, or a closed society to an open society, when that power gets toppled a power vacuum gets created, and during that time competition happens even between those who topple that government and eventually a power arises out of the ashes of the prior system.
Can politics become corrupt? Yes, but that does not make all politicians liars. There is no such thing as a perfect ideology, not in politics, not in religion and not in business models either. Humans run every aspect of life both public and private and all of those things can be subject to abuse of power.
This is the same stupid crap theists pull with "Have you ever lied, that makes you a liar". Our political system is messy yes, and corruption does happen, and right now yes, there is too much big money in politics, yes. But that does not make the tool of our system responsible for voters habits long term.
Our current abuse started 40 years ago with Reagan and his union busting and deregulation. Since then the GOP has controlled the narrative and force our democratic politicians to compete on their terms, instead of fighting back. But that is our fault as voters too, we gave up and we have not organized long term or thought long term like the GOP and that is why we constantly lose.
But if you want to talk about liars, Trump is the biggest fucking liar in the world. He knows damned well he won't suddenly get rid of 11 million human beings, as if that would be humane in any case. That is simply sick xenophobia on par with Hitler scapegoating Jews. Nor is he going to get Mexico to pay for a wall either.
Trump is a sick fuck and has no business even being a dog catcher. He doesn't want to be president, I think this started because of his own ego when Obama made fun of him to his face at the White House Press conference dinner. Just like Bush Jr started the second Iraq war to prove to daddy he could do a better job.