RE: Transexuals
April 15, 2016 at 6:43 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2016 at 6:48 pm by SteelCurtain.)
(April 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Sterben Wrote:(April 15, 2016 at 1:59 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: First off, *you're *their. Seriously, you're a grown up (I assume).
To your points, I agree that making a third bathroom or changing all bathrooms would be an unnecessary burden on employers.
However, your understanding of what it means to be transgender is lacking. It's not a man who wants to dress up like a woman and get breast implants. Gender is not the same as sex. A person can have a penis and be a woman, and the science is backing this up in spades. fMRI scans are showing differences in both brain chemistry and neural pathways, resulting in M-F trans individuals having brains more similar to females, and vice versa. Trans men report having phantom penises, like an amputee with a phantom limb. From the time before they really know the difference in sex organs, trans kids report being in the "wrong" body. This isn't a new phenomena. It's understandable that there is a lot of confusion, thinking that all this is talking about drag queens or something of the sort, but it's not. This is a real segment of the population, and the likelihood that you've met someone suffering from GD is pretty high.
So saying that a person should be subject to losing their job because of their outward appearance is ludicrous. If a trans person is qualified to work at a daycare center, why on Earth should they be fired or laid off because a customer has a bigoted reaction? That sounds heinous to me.
I am a grown adult and I was not condoning the practice of letting people based of appearance. I was conducting a thought experiment to where a common workplace was used. It is a heinous reaction to a person who is going a through such a major change within there lives. I can also understand the business's side of the argument, they have a right to protect there own lively hoods. If the daycare facility started to lose profit cause some parents were uncomfortable with leaving there child there. They stick to there guns and keep a trans-employee and when other parents start to look up reviews on the facility. The parents that were freaked out by the trans-employee posted that they have a Trans-gender attendant. Now there starting to lose profit and eventuality shuts down. Do company's facing these problems have a right to protect themselves? Or for social change to happen, are casualties necessary to force the issue into everyone lives?
Dammit, man. It's hard to read your posts. Come on.
There = place: "over there"
Their = possession: "their store"
They're = they are: "they're coming soon"
I'll ask you a question as a counter to your hypothetical. If you replaced transgender person with black person, would it be okay to fire a person for being black in a racist community?
How about gay? Would it be okay to fire a perfectly qualified homosexual because some parents thought their kid could catch the gay?
You'll also have to prove that this is something that actually could happen. If a person loses a client or two because the client(s) is bigoted, that's part of the free market. I don't know of a place where a person loses all of their clients because they all are bigoted. I think you have posed an unrealistic hypothetical.
Also, to be clear, what your are proposing amounts to "there are bigots out there who will discriminate against transexuals, and we should protect businesses from those bigots, not the people who are being discriminated against.
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