(April 16, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote:Then why was homosexuality listed as a mental health disorder by the American Psychiatry Association all the way up to 1973?(April 15, 2016 at 9:28 pm)AJW333 Wrote: Like having sex with children? Are they bullshit rules too?
Holy fucking shit, do you want to make a larger leap in order to poison the well?
I'll give you a hint: pederasty hurts people, homosexuality does not.
(April 16, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote: If something is an inherent biological drive for a person, and that drive would cause harm to another, then why wouldn't a certain level of empathy be engendered? I get that it's fundamentally icky, but if it's not something they have any control over then they've been placed in a situation beyond their control that stacks the social deck against them incredibly. Now, given the inherent harm in actually obeying that drive, we should still have an ironclad expectation that they not just go along with what they want, and that they do deny themselves, but you can abhor the action while still recognizing that the desire may not be something actively under their control.If a male minor age 14 is interested in sex with a 22 year old female, how is that damaging?
Quote:In my country, in order to get gender reassignment surgery, you have to have a doctor diagnose you with gender dysphoria. Which is a mental disorder where you feel that you are the wrong gender to what your genes and anatomy otherwise indicate. So if this is a disorder, shouldn't we be trying to correct it? That would mean trying to harmonize the mind with physical reality. As far as I know, gender dysphoria is the only condition where the treatment is to go with the disease rather than to fight it. Doesn't sound like good medicine to me.
(April 16, 2016 at 7:05 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Why are you presuming that transitioning is not a cure? The symptoms go away, the underlying problem is addressed and the patient incurs no adverse affects:Really??? Then how come the massive suicide rate among transgendered people?
"The prevalence of suicide attempts among respondents to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS), conducted by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and National Center for Transgender Equality, is 41 percent, which vastly exceeds the 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population who report a lifetime" UCLA School of Law.
With a suicide rate 10 times higher than average, the "treatment" is clearly an abject failure.