(April 19, 2016 at 10:22 pm)AJW333 Wrote: You are correct that I didn't read the article. This is because I was already aware of the 41% figure for transgender suicide and was providing a link to authenticate the number. Probably should have read it and saved myself some grief.
If you're gonna use that data to formulate a conclusion then it's probably the least you could do, yeah.
Quote:Note that I am not disputing the reasons given for the suicide. I did say that it wasn't established how much discrimination is responsible for and I believe that reliable figures are hard to come by. What I am disputing is the overall effectiveness of the "therapy." If my son liked wearing dresses, I wouldn't allow him to go to school in one, since the bullying would do him a huge amount of damage. It is pointless to say, "he has a right to wear a dress and everyone should respect that." In the real world, this ain't gonna happen. He's going to be picked on mercilessly by all sorts of people, religious and non-religious.
So your real problem is with bullying... you just baselessly think that it's easier to deal with a completely unrelated issue instead, and completely knuckle under to the pressures of the bad behavior you actually have an issue with. Because nothing corrects bullies like... showing them that bullying is a great way to make people change to suit them? Yep, surely that'll work wonders.

But in any case, the fact that the study links not being able to transition with a higher suicide rate doesn't change your view because...?
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