Timelessness

[robvalue]

Very nice post! Thank you.

"Timeless" just seems to be one of the latest fashionable excuses as to why there is no evidence to back up these wild claims.

Another thing: how could you possibly know that god is timeless? You can't even demonstrate his merest existence, yet you're positing something so incredible like this? Evidence?

It seems to be either pulled straight out of one's anus, or else it's a "solution" to a paradox the theist themselves have imposed upon reality:

"Reality, according to how I describe it, wouldn't work. So there must be a magical extra thing X with all these amazing abilities which accounts for the difference between my understanding of reality, and what we observe"

Maybe if how you describe reality doesn't mesh with reality, you just don't understand it properly in the first place. And you're creating problems that aren't there by constantly insisting that you can use philosophy alone to "investigate" the origins of the universe, when all of science has hit a hard barrier; then claiming there needs to be this magical explanation for the logical problems you imagine there would be. It's the obsession with wanting to know more, without accepting the fact that we simply can't yet. And of course, it's trying to connect the dots for conclusions that have already been drawn, mostly via indoctrination.

Trying to force reality into a story book...