(April 8, 2011 at 11:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: Correct, Rayaan..... except for the last couple of centuries violence committed by xtians and jews is rarely done specifically in the name of religion. You guys cannot say as much.
You're right also, but I think that such acts of evilness being done in the name of Islam has increased only in the last couple of decades, not centuries. Hamas and the people of Palestine didn't start strategic terror attacks until the early 90's. The thing is that the recent events tend to stick out more in our minds and thus we give less significance to all the other acts of violence done in the past by non-Muslims. It's a historical fact that the major wars between the European nations during the past 100 years have caused a lot more damage to the world than the Muslims did (the only difference being that they didn't do it specifically in the name of religion).
(April 8, 2011 at 12:57 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, if unusal rate and volumes of violent acts were prepetrated in the name of a particular religion, it is fair to ask what it is about the actual influence of that religion, as oppose to what is said on the guilded "spiritual brouchure" with which every religion sells itself to the needy and gullible, that promoted this troubling correlation. It is indeed dishonest to reflexively dismiss the possibility of a connection and thereby cast approporiate caution to the wind.
I'm not completely dismissing the possibility of a connection. What I believe is that the hostility that exists in some of the Muslims in the world are more of a result of their political agendas and/or historical and regional conflicts rather than a result of Islam itself. If Muslims are violent just because of their religion, or just because of what the Quran says, then why is there an absence of violence and a terroristic mentality in countries like Malaysia, Morocco, Mauritania, Sudan, Tunisia, Canada, and Bangladesh, for example?
(April 8, 2011 at 5:26 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I think that is already assumed in the argument. So many followers of each religion is going to have bad things happen regardless. With that said I will thumb your post up.
Yes, that's my point. Violence is violence and it does not matter whether or not it is religiously "inspired" or for purely secular purposes.
(April 8, 2011 at 6:15 pm)Sarcasm Wrote: I think it definitely indicates the stupidity of each religion though.
Violence is stupid, but this doesn't mean that all religions are stupid also. There are a lot of things that can be said about people from different religions and nationalities. The fact still remains that no matter what the nationality, or religion, or the skin color of a terrorist is, it is not those things, but rather it is the person who commits the crime.