(May 8, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: The concept of a concept is a tautologyI'm saying that you're defining existence itself as merely a concept, and I'm asking then what the concept of that would be? My question was rhetorical that's the whole point. It makes no sense to define existence itself as a concept. Something is that something, the concept of that something is the concept of that something. Essence and existence are separate. On the one hand you have something, on the other hand you have the concept of it. On the one hand you have the question of what that something is, on the other hand you have the question of whether it exists. That's the most basic elementary metaphysics.
Quote:it doesn't create the infinite regression you seem to think it does. I'm actually really dissapointed in you, I thought we were getting somewhere and then you dumped all these rationalizations on me that are all beside the point.
That's how I feel about you. Do you still seriously stand by existence itself being a concept?
As I said, that would imply that evolution is false because before minds evolved nothing would exist to conceptualize existence. Do you not see the hugely illogical flaw in defining existence itself as a concept? The concept of existence is a concept, existence is not a concept.
Quote:You're not going to agree with me on principle it seems, whether you're taking that stance consciously or not.
What I'm saying actually makes sense. Again, you think nothing would exist without minds to conceive of the concept of existence? You do realize reality itself and the concept of reality is entirely separate right?
-Hammy