(May 16, 2016 at 10:14 am)AFTT47 Wrote:(May 15, 2016 at 8:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They said that themselves in the aftermath of 2012. The result this year was 17 of the dumbest, most racist, assholes ever gathered to be candidates for a major party. They cannot help themselves. This is what is left in the party "base."
Well they are changing. The problem is, they don't know what direction to go. They're definitely off on the wrong tangent with Trump and most of the establishment knows that. As to what they do about it...
I fear it will spark a brief but fierce resurgence of Bible Thumper madness, if/when Trump is defeated. You should hear how my fundamentalist family members loathe that man. He is moral corruption deeper than anything they can even imagine among the Damned Lib'ruls, and they know it. They may stay home in record numbers, though I suspect some will reluctantly pull the lever out of "s'posed ta do it" and still vote GOP regardless of candidate. But what anger that foments in both the lower-eschelon Christian groups that still are able to make themselves support Trump and in the ones who cannot morally support such an immoral man... I fear to see the monster that may be the last gasp of American-style Christian fundamentalism.
In other words, Trump may be Sauron, and that's bad, but what's coming next may well be Morgoth.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
