RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 4:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 4:27 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I appreciate, as I'm sure we all do, Quip..that you came here to enlighten we suffering denizens of AF......and "put a reasonable doubt into the atheist perspective"...whatever you think that is.
However, I fear that such a goal is at cross purposes to your stated method, in that proposing a koan, you should be causing us to -doubt- the efficacy of reason, at which point the value of a reasonable doubt is significantly reduced. Further, your inability, up to this point, to actually -present- comments or questions which might lead us to doubt reason, except insomuch as we might doubt that you possess any, makes me suspect that the time you spent learning whatever you think passes as buddhism might have been better spent doing something else, like sitting on your hands.
Perhaps you're a poor communicator, in a hellish kassandra scenario whereby you have things of great importance to convey, but for whatever reason, you cannot properly impress upon others what those things are, or convince them that they are important....but seeing as your stated aim is to reduce confidence in reason, it's difficult to see how you intend to convince anyone of anything. If we accepted the inadequecy of reason, what will you use, then, to bring us round? Will you be repeating your claims or your questions until you get a response that you find suitable for further prevarication...and then claim that all previous answers were thusly inadequate or incorrect?
To what end, we might ask ourselves, would a person wish to create such a hole in cognition? "Enlightenment", proclaims buddhism. Convenient, I think, that "enlightenment" seems to require irrationality, demands that we abandon reason which would rail against it's inanities. Convenient, that "enlightenment" seems to be interchangeable with the dogma of the buddhist who sits before us claiming to have none. Unfortunate, in that "enlightenment" doesn't seem to be very enlightening.
However, I fear that such a goal is at cross purposes to your stated method, in that proposing a koan, you should be causing us to -doubt- the efficacy of reason, at which point the value of a reasonable doubt is significantly reduced. Further, your inability, up to this point, to actually -present- comments or questions which might lead us to doubt reason, except insomuch as we might doubt that you possess any, makes me suspect that the time you spent learning whatever you think passes as buddhism might have been better spent doing something else, like sitting on your hands.
Perhaps you're a poor communicator, in a hellish kassandra scenario whereby you have things of great importance to convey, but for whatever reason, you cannot properly impress upon others what those things are, or convince them that they are important....but seeing as your stated aim is to reduce confidence in reason, it's difficult to see how you intend to convince anyone of anything. If we accepted the inadequecy of reason, what will you use, then, to bring us round? Will you be repeating your claims or your questions until you get a response that you find suitable for further prevarication...and then claim that all previous answers were thusly inadequate or incorrect?
To what end, we might ask ourselves, would a person wish to create such a hole in cognition? "Enlightenment", proclaims buddhism. Convenient, I think, that "enlightenment" seems to require irrationality, demands that we abandon reason which would rail against it's inanities. Convenient, that "enlightenment" seems to be interchangeable with the dogma of the buddhist who sits before us claiming to have none. Unfortunate, in that "enlightenment" doesn't seem to be very enlightening.
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