RE: Global Warming - The New Socialism
March 30, 2009 at 8:29 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2009 at 8:37 am by lilphil1989.)
(March 30, 2009 at 7:25 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: Suppose that instead our models are wrong, that the earth is cooling instead of warming yet here we sit preparing for warming. The amount of money invested in global warming would be wasted, and we would be ill prepared.
I don't believe the earth warming is anything to worry about. CO2 is plant food, hence we will go to greater prosperity and health should the earth warm. An interesting site about CO2 is: http://ilovecarbondioxide.com/
In my opinion there's more to gain by believing that it is man-made on reasonable (not conclusive though) evidence, and taking precautions, than there is to lose if we're wrong. I see what you mean about wasted investment though.
Climate models are not used to predict whether or not the earth is warming now. That can be directly observed. The earth is warming (by that, I mean the global average surface temperature is increasing), the debate is whether or not that's caused by humanity or whether it would have happened anyway.
Climate models are used to predict how the climate will react to induced changes (i.e. rainfall, storm frequency, temperature). It's just such a complex system, and incredibly difficult to describe.
I guess in a hundred years or so, when the fossil fuel reserves are depleted, there won't be much of a choice about cutting carbon dioxide emissions

EDIT: I found nothing on that website but broad, sweeping statements with no scientific grounding. I find the study of complex systems like this intriguing. I've looked for science-based explanations from those who refute man-made global warming, but can't seem to find anything further than hand-waving about solar cycles. Thoughtful, you seem to have done much more research than me into man-made global warming "debunking", if you could point me in the direction of some of the scientific reasoning of skeptics I'd be grateful.
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip