(April 15, 2011 at 5:34 am)lilphil1989 Wrote: The best evidence for such a claim is a picture of a man sitting on something vaguely rocket-shaped? If there was a schematic for a spaceship there, or some description of it's working that would require scientific knowledge unavailable to prehistoric man, that would warrant discussion of this idea. A picture of a man sitting on a fork? Not so much. If you want this to be taken seriously, you'll need to do much, much better than that.
It seems like you believe this idea, but are scared of having it ridiculed. Perhaps spend a little time thinking about why such an idea might be subject to ridicule.
Quote: if your interested to hear more evidence for this theory i will do my best to respond with some.
Please, go ahead. But also bear in mind that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
(April 15, 2011 at 5:30 am)JohnDG Wrote: In truth your probly right, I am a profound beleiver that aliens do exist( I mean come on don't be so dumb) and that they have influenced our society in many ways.
The former may be true. Given the vastness of the universe and the sheer number of stars, and making assumptions about the number of planets based on the number of extrasolar planets detected thus far using the transit method, it seems reasonable to think that there might be at least single-celled life in at least one other place in the universe.
To have a "profound belief" in this, however, is irrational, since there is currently no evidence to support such a belief.
The latter part is even more irrational. Not only are you claiming existence of alien life, but that it has visited earth, and influenced our societies. There is no evidence whatsoever to support such a claim.
It amazes me that someone can dismiss the idea of god as irrational whilst clinging onto other nonsenses which should be dismissed for the selfsame reason.
ok first of all i am not CLAIMING anything, so do not seek to ridicule me by pretending i am saying something i am not. you dismiss my picture of 'a man sitting on something vaguely rocket-shaped' before even understanding the purpose of why i used it. it is an EXAMPLE. i did not intend for that picture alone to be taken as all of the evidence i have used to create this thread, c'mon give me some credit here.
you speak as if this is what i am saying to be true, when i am not, i am just giving food for thought. i am just giving a point of discussion which i myself find interesting.
i think it was my mistake to label certain things as evidence, i will concede that, this is my first post so i was just trying to get some thoughts out there. however to dismiss certain points entirely would be unfair, so i will try to help you understand why i think this theory is as valid as the next persons.
firstly i want to draw your attention to the pyramids. now can you explain to me how in three different continents at the same time three different civilisations were creating these wonders which we cannot replicate today? they had no way of communicating with each other so that would leave two possibilities. you take this phenomenon as a fluke, a coincidence. OR something influenced these peoples to start builiding these immaculately precise structures at the same time. now i will leave it to you to come up with a theory of your own as to what this 'something' was. i am not saying it was DEFINITELY aliens, BUT i am saying that it is perfectly valid.
i would also point you to the book chariots of the gods. this book does not state any of its theories as fact, however it merely poses questions. much like this thread.
third, what about the nazca lines in peru?
these are massive drawings on the ground which can only be viewed properly from the air? why the hell would a civilisation without the power of flight design these drawings so that they can only be visible from miles up in the sky? to honour their gods? this is exactly the point i am making, what if their 'gods' were these space faring beings!
on top of that how does this civilisation draw an image of a spider which is only viewable under a microscope without the use of A MICROSCOPE?!? can you answer me this? the only solution i can think of myself and forgive me if i am missing something here, but the only thing i can think of is some sort of intervention by something more technologically advanced. either that or again your telling me it's a fluke.
fourth i would like to point you to this documentary series which superbly underlines the whole theory of ancient astronauts. after you have watched this i would like to hear your response. http://www.world-mysteries.com/aa.htm
i think i have given you enough there to come back to me with. i would again like to stress, i do not submit this all as fact, the whole purpose of this thread was to provide food for thought, and make people realise this is just a viable theory as any other as to where religion came from.
thanks,
Napo
