RE: Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks
April 16, 2011 at 7:07 am
(This post was last modified: April 16, 2011 at 7:10 am by orogenicman.)
(April 15, 2011 at 3:19 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(April 15, 2011 at 6:53 am)orogenicman Wrote:Statler Wrote:RNA and R18 have never been observed to synthesize naturally. I am sorry
You should be very sorry, because both are naturally occurring organic molecules.
Naturally occurring is not the same as naturally synthesizing. RNA cannot synthesize outside of the cell because cytosine is far too unstable and reactive to ever be synthesized in today's environment and much less in an "early earth" environment. Also keep in mind that the RNA used in these experiments was both purified and activated, something that would never happen in nature. Also, the Miller-Urey experiments did not produce any of the necessary building blocks of RNA so maybe you should stick to geology.
(April 15, 2011 at 6:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: It's mk orogenicman Waldorf Salad is well known for his lack of scientific understanding and qualifications...
If you are ill-informed enough to believe that RNA is synthesized outside of the cell naturally then it is definitely you who needs to brush up on your science.
I rather enjoy your strawman arguments, Statler. No one suggested that RNA could be synthesized naturally outside a cell membrane. Your argument was that RNA has not been observed to synthesize naturally. Here, let me refresh your memory:
Statler Wrote:RNA and R18 have never been observed to synthesize naturally. I am sorry.
The fact that they are both naturally occurring molceules makes it impossible for you to claim that they are not synthesized naturally. Whether or not they can be derived naturally outside of the cell is neither here nor there.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
