RE: Free will
May 27, 2016 at 7:04 am
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2016 at 7:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 27, 2016 at 2:21 am)Ignorant Wrote: Well, I said that, given the condition that god foreknows that you will choose a, you cannot choose b. Let me ask you a question:
Can you choose a, if god's foreknowledge says a?
It's the only thing I can choose, if the claim to foreknowledge is true. You said as much yourself.
Quote:This is a good question which requires a discussion about contingent action and the conditions for freedom.Doesn't seem so. The question was rhetorical. Knowing that I cannot choose b is all I need to know in order to conclude that the concept doesn't work in concert with foreknowledge.
Quote:No.You just said that it was.
Quote:Well, it may be a start for a discussion about what freedom actually is, which I think is worth talking about.You mean a discussion of what you believe freedom really is and anything other than continuing -this- discussion? If you think freedom is the ability to choose between a and a, as you described in relation to gods foreknowledge and free will, regardless of whether or not you are comfortable with the consequences......I'm not interested.
I'm sure there are as many definitions as you will require to excuse yourself from any objections contained -within- them.
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