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Can a slug be God?
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RE: Can a slug be God?
(May 28, 2016 at 5:44 am)robvalue Wrote: I appreciate the responses, thank you Smile

I cannot make any sense of it I'm afraid. I don't know how I could possibly tell the difference between a reality with one of these gods involved, and one without. [1] I'm also very unsure how any theist can tell the difference.

Maybe that's a different angle. How would you expect reality to differ if there was no god behind it? [2] It might still have a creator, but not a god. [3]

If you can answer this question, where are you getting your information? (Hopefully not in a circular way.) [4]

1) You couldn't tell, and here's why: If "one of these gods" was not involved with a particular reality, that reality would not exist. If that reality didn't exist, then there is no difference to observe because there is nothing to observe at all. If you are proposing that a reality might exist without involvement in the "act-of-existing", then I simply don't know what you mean.

2) It would differ in every way in the most radical way possible: reality would not exist at all.

3) It would be possible to have a reality with god and a creator which is not itself god. [EDIT:If => It] is not possible to have a reality with a creator which is not itself god and no god. Why? How do you propose a creator might exist if the "act-of-existing" does not exist?

4) If we accept the idea that god is subsistent being, i.e. He is not only the "act-of-existence" as such, but also his own "act-of-existence", then nothing else can "exist" at all if they do not share this "act" somehow. If there is no act to share, then they can't act at all. If they have the act in themselves, then they are god.
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Messages In This Thread
Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 4:41 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2016 at 5:18 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Homeless Nutter - May 14, 2016 at 5:36 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 14, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Aoi Magi - May 14, 2016 at 7:37 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 14, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by paulpablo - May 14, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by popeyespappy - May 14, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by downbeatplumb - May 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 14, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Alex K - May 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by brewer - May 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 14, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by deleteduser12345 - May 25, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Aroura - May 14, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 17, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by dom.donald - May 17, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Valkyrie - May 17, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 17, 2016 at 11:58 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 18, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 25, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Gemini - May 25, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by SofaKingHigh - May 25, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 26, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 27, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 26, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 5:40 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Thumpalumpacus - May 26, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 26, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 5:44 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 5:53 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 29, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 29, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Heatheness - May 29, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 29, 2016 at 1:20 pm

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