RE: Global Warming - The New Socialism
April 1, 2009 at 6:47 am
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2009 at 6:51 am by twawki.)
I think AGW (anthropogenic (or man made) global warming) is simply a new religion. It seems to copy religion in how it presents itself - man the sinner against god the earth, we have to pay penance in the form of carbon taxes etc. Frankly its just another money making scam - just like the popes of the middle ages 'when a coin in the offertory rings a soul from purgatory springs' but now youre gonna get taxed for every breath you take - despite CO2 being a basic building block of life and plant food.
If you applied an atheistic mindset in assessing AGW you would have to say 'where is the proof?' And yet when you look for factual support for the AGW hypothesis there is none. You apply the scientific method to AGW and you realise that it is an unproven theory that has no real empirical data to back it up. The whole AGW case is built on computer models that get further and further from reality as time goes on. If you look at reality satellite temps say the world is cooling, the poles are growing, as are glaciers, theres record cold and snow around the world, polar bear populations are increasing etc etc.
Some people here have raised the precautionary principle that as a precaution even if its wrong its still good to do something but I ask when the world is cooling and the cold kills much more people and life than the warmth (the warm periods are the golden ages of the earth where life flourishes) why are we spending trillions on an unproven non existent problem when that money could be put to better use restoring habitats, feeding, housing and educating the poor, developing clean technologies etc.
Weve been scammed big time - AGW is the biggest hoax out and theyll use every emotional argument to get at your heart strings and ignore facts and science.
I think that is simply just polarising the debate by using politics and achieves little. I think we need to take politics out of it and look at the facts - are sea levels rising - no, is the world getting warmer - the satellites say no, is CO2 warming the atmosphere - well they cant prove it is and natural climatic cycles explain quite easily all the climate fluctuations to date.
If you applied an atheistic mindset in assessing AGW you would have to say 'where is the proof?' And yet when you look for factual support for the AGW hypothesis there is none. You apply the scientific method to AGW and you realise that it is an unproven theory that has no real empirical data to back it up. The whole AGW case is built on computer models that get further and further from reality as time goes on. If you look at reality satellite temps say the world is cooling, the poles are growing, as are glaciers, theres record cold and snow around the world, polar bear populations are increasing etc etc.
Some people here have raised the precautionary principle that as a precaution even if its wrong its still good to do something but I ask when the world is cooling and the cold kills much more people and life than the warmth (the warm periods are the golden ages of the earth where life flourishes) why are we spending trillions on an unproven non existent problem when that money could be put to better use restoring habitats, feeding, housing and educating the poor, developing clean technologies etc.
Weve been scammed big time - AGW is the biggest hoax out and theyll use every emotional argument to get at your heart strings and ignore facts and science.
(March 31, 2009 at 10:44 am)lilphil1989 Wrote:(March 30, 2009 at 4:56 pm)athoughtfulman Wrote: That's fair Kyuu - I'm undecided until we have more evidence.
I've noticed that people with "conservative" views are much more likely to claim that man-made global warming is a hoax, or conspiracy or simply a mistake. Anyone have any idea why?
I think that is simply just polarising the debate by using politics and achieves little. I think we need to take politics out of it and look at the facts - are sea levels rising - no, is the world getting warmer - the satellites say no, is CO2 warming the atmosphere - well they cant prove it is and natural climatic cycles explain quite easily all the climate fluctuations to date.
