(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Sorry, history can only tell you what someone said, not what their motives were.
And you can choose to ignore what they said and make up your own motives. That is your prerogative.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You can believe what a documented liar said his motives were, I’ll make logical conclusions based on his beliefs and actions.
How can you make logical conclusions when you apparently cannot follow a conversation? Tell me where I said I based my beliefs regarding Stalin off of things he said. Since you cannot, I can only presume that you enjoy running amok in conversations and dragging what should be a simple linear conversation through the fucking ringer. Listen, A comes after B and B after C. When we are talking about A, try not to pretend I am talking about Z and make every attempt you can to proceed to B and C, so I don't have to spend all of my time with you saying, "I did not say that." It is annoying to read post after post of you using things I did not say for your arguments. I think you know what that is called.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Figured you’d ignore my analogy, not much you could respond to its logical validity.
What validity? You opened with a generalization that did not apply to me. It was instantly illogical, as many over-generalizations are.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: A Christian is defined as someone who follows the teaching of Jesus Christ.
Tell that to those naughty Christians.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Killing was not one of those teachings, so someone that says they are a Christian but acts in a manner contrary to Christ’s teachings is not a Christian.
So, I guess since I do not "worship" Dawkins, I am not an atheist? Try not to step on your own feet here.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I will not let you re-define the English language for the purpose of this discussion.
Apart from the fact that I am not redefining anything, please allow me to clarify something. You have not, will not and cannot "allow" me to do anything. You are not in a position of authority over me.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: An atheist is not defined by their actions, so an atheist killing millions is still a true atheist if they do not believe in the existence of God or any gods.
Would you look at that. Another argument against something I never wrote. Did I say Stalin was a "bad atheist" or an "untrue atheist?' Nope. I did not.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Where did Jesus tell Christians to drag atheists through the streets or to kill them? If he did not ever say this then the people who did that were acting in a manner contrary to their religion. Besides, pointing to other bad behavior does not justify bad behavior.
Contrary or not, they were the forefathers of your hate-mongering religion. I did not say it justifies anyone's behavior. I'm not a fan of Stalin, in case you have not noticed. I'm not trying to excuse that prick. I am simply pointing out that you are like a horse with blinders on and you probably always will be.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You have working knowledge? I have family who directly observed the atrocities that you claimed never happened. Your ad-hominem attacks are getting pretty old; I hope the moderators buckle down on your lack of civility a bit.
Point to an ad hom. Do it or I call bullshit. P.S. I am a moderator and I do my absolute best to follow the rules here. Feel free to report my posts if you think I am in the wrong and the other mods will surely have their say about it. I am not exempt from the rules.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Christians are people who follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. Where did Jesus say to burn witches, kill werewolves, and kill Muslims? If you cannot provide these things then I suggest you just admit you were wrong. Again, stop re-defining terms like ‘Christian’ just to prove a fallacious point.
"Thou shalt not suffer a sorceress to live." Exodus 22:18 How about you admit that you are wrong?
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Red herring.
Not really. Just a valid point.
(April 19, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Christians not following the teachings of Christ? I would think that would make them not Christians, but since apparently definitions do not matter to you I guess you would disagree.
I simply disagree because I have never met a Christian who followed every teaching of Christ to the letter. By your definition, there are no Christians.
