RE: Make Atheism Great Again
June 8, 2016 at 11:49 pm
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2016 at 12:03 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: I think it's time we reset the priorities of this movement.
What movement? I don't remember being handed a card, or anything... I don't believe in god - it's not an ideology, or a sub-culture, not even a life-style. It's just my position in relation to deities. I'm not an "Atheist" - I'm an atheist...
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Remember when the Reason Rally was about secularism and mocking religion?
Well, the novelty has worn off. Move on.
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Remember when the main discussion was on creationism and failed religious philosophy?
Lol... No. Up until very recently creationism was almost exclusively USA problem. In Europe and most of Asia even the religious people learned to live with the concept of evolution, while in the more backward (read - theocratic, read - islamic) parts of the world there never was a discussion, because they have many more social and political issues to solve, before there can be a free discourse on philosophy and cosmology over there.
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Now it's become a bunch of children whining about their feelings.
If you say so. I'm not seeing it.
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: When did the Atheism movement turn into an SJW movement?
I don't know. Did it? Was there ever one? What's this SJW movement, that seems to have got your panties in such a twist?
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Can the SJW's just form a movement on their own without leaching on other movements? I mean ok, trans rights and gay rights and such are important issues, but what have they got to do with Atheism?
I don't know. You tell me. If Thunderf00t is an "Atheist", and "Atheism" is anything like atheism, then what does his grudge against feminism have to do with "Atheism"? Oh, that's right - views. As I said before - the novelty of atheism on internet has worn off. People, who might have gained popularity by expressing atheistic views, especially on social issues, have to move on and expand, if they want to remain relevant and keep that ad/patreon revenue going. That's why some of them have to pander to - say - misogynists.
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Now-a-days, they've even taken to trying to ban scientists from talking at conferences or firing them from their job.
Who does? Do you have any facts at your disposal, or are you just ranting on the basis of what you heard on a YouTube video?
(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Why? Because feelings. Remember when the Atheist movement was a group of people that spoke their mind no matter who it pissed off?
Uhm... Again - no.

(June 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: Yeah, now that the regressive left has taken over the movement with people like Steve Shives and the like, it's basically become a modern incarnation of Atheism+. A message to the SJW's that may be reading this. If you want to see the secularist movement survive, stop trying to attach other dogmas to it, because you're only going to divide people. There are many atheist who do not agree with you on said politics and social views, but do agree with you on secularism. The Reason Rally had just barely 1,000 people there this time, as opposed to the 20,000 people in 2012. You are not helping the movement by putting in regressive left values. You are only driving people away.
Yeah, well - you're not helping atheism, by calling it a "movement", or attaching your own agendas, to the simple concept. I don't even have to be a secularist, or mock religion to be an atheist. And if I ever was a card-carrying member of this "Atheism", if there is something that would drive me away, or make me feel ashamed to be associated with such a group - it would be misogyny and bigotry expressed by some of those "great Atheists"...
That - or using Trump's dumb slogan.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw