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"What movement? I don't remember being handed a card, or anything... I don't believe in god - it's not an ideology, or a sub-culture, not even a life-style. It's just my position in relation to deities. I'm not an "Atheist" - I'm an atheist..."
Fairly sure there was a rather large secular movement and a movement to get atheists to come out of the closet just a few years ago. Ah, but it's died down now, because people want to make it about feelings and really a lot of trivial shit.
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"Well, the novelty has worn off. Move on."
That's why TheArmouredSketpic and AronRa still get a lot of views on their newer atheism videos, huh?
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"Lol... No. Up until very recently creationism was almost exclusively USA problem. In Europe and most of Asia even the religious people learned to live with the concept of evolution, while in the more backward (read - theocratic, read - islamic) parts of the world there never was a discussion, because they have many more social and political issues to solve, before there can be a free discourse on philosophy and cosmology over there."
I am an American, so I'm very concerned about said problem in my country.
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"If you say so. I'm not seeing it."
Then you're blind.
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"I don't know. You tell me. If Thunderf00t is an "Atheist", and "Atheism" is anything like atheism, then what does his grudge against feminism have to do with "Atheism"? Oh, that's right - views. As I said before - the novelty of atheism on internet has worn off. People, who might have gained popularity by expressing atheistic views, especially on social issues, have to move on and expand, if they want to remain relevant and keep that ad/patreon revenue going. That's why some of them have to pander to - say - misogynists."
Because feminism is a threat to society the same way that religion is. It kills education and indoctrinates them, and if you express any kind of view to the contrary, they try to shut you down, as you just did. Except you know, calling everyone a racist or sexist or misogynist doesn't work anymore. It doesn't work anymore than being called a socialist. You're going to need to find a better way to argue.
Quote:Quote:Homeless Nutter"Who does? Do you have any facts at your disposal, or are you just ranting on the basis of what you heard on a YouTube video?"
Disinviting Dawkins to speak at a science conference (most likely atheist) because he shared a cartoon on Twitter, and trying to get Dr. Phil Mason fired from a university (by a bunch of atheists) because, Iunno, he made videos about how he thinks Anita Sarkeesian is wrong? Yeah, that's totally a reason to get a scientist who is trying to improve humanity fired from his job. Totally. Thankfully that backfired on them.
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"Yeah, well - you're not helping atheism, by calling it a "movement", or attaching your own agendas, to the simple concept. I don't even have to be a secularist, or mock religion to be an atheist. And if I ever was a card-carrying member of this "Atheism", if there is something that would drive me away, or make me feel ashamed to be associated with such a group - it would be misogyny and bigotry expressed by some of those "great Atheists"..."
So if it's not a movement, why are you on a website dedicated to this non-belief? Sure all you have to do to be an atheist is not believe in god. Sure, alright, and maybe I mispoke and should have said anti-theist or secular movement. Sure alright, but whatever. Most people know what I'm talking about. Or at least, I'd hope they do.
There is no "misogyny" and "bigotry" expressed in the group. Not for the most part. Not by people like TJ or Thunderf00t. Your false dichotomy that if you're not with the SJW's that you're a racist, sexist, misogynysy bigot is horse shit. That argument isn't working and you're going to need another way to try and win your arguments.
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"That - or using Trump's dumb slogan."
Using Trump's slogan was just for laughs.
