Make Atheism Great Again

[rexbeccarox]

"Mocking religion has gotten old for most, IMO."

Is that why people still get popular for doing it? I mean Armoured Skeptic is fairly new to the scene and all he does is attack Josh Feurstein. AronRa still manages to pull in views by primarily attacking religion and creationism. His series "Refuting The Irrefutable Proof Of God" is his newest one, and it has drawn in a lot of views.

I have no idea who two of the three are, and the only reason I know AronRa is because, when I first realized I was an atheist, I watched a couple of his videos on YouTube.

"I really hate it when people capitalize the word "atheism" when it's not part of a title or at the beginning of a sentence. It is not a proper noun."

Yeah well, I don't care, I'll continue doing it when I feel like doing so.

Ok... it's not going to make you look very smart, though.

"On top of that, atheism, in and of itself, has no right to a movement. It's a null position, and it's certainly not a "SWJ movement", whatever that is. There are a lot of atheists who are concerned with social issues. That probably isn't going to change."

Maybe not atheism per-say, but anti-theism and secularism most certainly have a right to a movement. Besides, we're all on this website. Atheists can hold whatever political position they like, but it's tiring to see those political views infest the secular movement. Do you go around finding people who are having a conversation about golf and force them to have a conversation about hockey?

(It's "per se")

Then why don't you specify "secularism" or "anti-theism"? I'm not an anti-theist, so please don't lump me in with them- like you're doing with atheists and SWJs (again, whatever that means).

"Atheism is a lack of belief in god(s). That's it. We'd all be pretty boring if we didn't have other things we were interested in and passionate about."

Sure, but when there's a gathering of people who come together to talk about secularism, they're going to be driven away by SJW's who hijack the movement.

You're conflating atheism and secularism; they are not the same.

"They don't. A lot of atheists are concerned with those things."

Ok? So why don't they talk about these things away from the secular movement? Maybe start their own movement dedicated to just that?

I have no idea. Maybe they do. I get involved with lots of things and lots of "movements" that have nothing to do with atheism all the time.

"Who have? Atheists?"

Look at them disinviting Richard Dawkins from talking at a science conference because of his posting of a funny YouTube video, or trying to get Dr. Phil Mason fired for him expressing his opinions online. Yeah, regressive leftists, many of whom are in fact atheists.

Right. Check your logic, dude. Again: who is "them"? Not atheists, but, as you say, "regressive leftists", some of whom happen to be atheists. Another conflation.

"Have you heard the "herding cats" analogy? People got bored with the obvious and stopped being interested. I myself can only read or hear the same shit so many times before I'm completely bored. The only thing to say about atheism, in and of itself, is that it's a lack of belief in deities. That's it."

Sure, but once again, when there is a movement talking about secularism and secular issues, there shouldn't be a bunch of whining cry babies that need safe spaces taking over the movement and ruining it. They should start another movement that is just about these topics if they care about them so much.

The thing is: most of what they're "whining" about they see as secular issues. For example: these crazy religious freedom laws several states in the US are passing affect gay people, transgender people, and... wait for it... atheists, among others.

I'll give you the same advice I often give another AF member: think harder.