(June 19, 2016 at 9:45 am)SteveII Wrote: @Esquilax, one of your objections to maximally great being is that something "slightly more great" can be imagined makes no sense. What could be greater than an omnipotent, omniscient, morally perfect, and necessary being? If you could logically conceive of anything greater, then that would be God. Your parody about the greatest conceivable girlfriend illustrates nothing. 1) the qualities of such a person would be subjective and 2) there is nothing about such a person that would make her necessary.
To defeat the argument, you are left with showing why premise 1 is not true. This would require you to show that the concept of a maximally great being (God) is illogical.
Well then how do you know there is no dragon in your room where you're writing your posts from? You'll probably answer "Because I can't see no dragon?" - Well then, I can say in spirit of ontological "logic" the dragon is invisible. You'll answer: I can sling a rope on the floor, under it's feet. - So what, dragon is flying.
To which you can reply: I know there's no dragon because I just spray painted the room and there was no dragon for it would be covered with color. - So, the dragon is moving fast, it's a dragon you know, and it escaped from being spray pained... and so on and on.
Would you believe there's a dragon in your room, leave it food and fear him? - No, because even if there is some sort of dragon in your room that's invisible, flying and very fast it obviously has no effect on your life - the same thing is with god.
BTW here's another argument for God by William Lane Craig - just to further show what a disturbing insane maniac that asshole is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUMzYA3XSEc
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
