(April 25, 2011 at 5:55 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:no objection here.(April 25, 2011 at 5:39 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote:(April 25, 2011 at 5:34 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:Cinjin Cain Wrote:#1 the current condition of the resources of this planet
They are fine. When we start dying, they will still be fine.
yes, that is one side of the debate. The other side, of which there is far more evidence, is that earths resources are not "fine" ... but I do enjoy the "nuh uuh" argument when people like myself express concern about our planet.
Life is a hellhole spiral of death. It's not fair or kind, and luck is all that stands between survival and annihilation. When something pivotal to a system is worn to destruction, the entire system will adapt. In the process much more will be destroyed. Arising out of that will be the new life that perpetuates the maelstrom.
Quote:The concern over this planet is misguided. It's always about 'preserve this' or 'protect that'... never about 'does this work out efficiently?' or 'is it worth damaging another industry to do this?' Hence, this isn't a thing for which we need evidence. It is a question of progress or conserve. Naught more.
objection here. Firstly, this is just your opinion, and thank god for that, cause if everybody treated this opinion of yours as some kind of 'truth' we'd have nothing but dry rainforests, fish free seas and oil coating the surface of the ocean. Secondly, how is having enough food for everyone on the planet a question of "how does this work out efficiently?" What "industry is being damage" when we run out of water or fuel? We ask those questions all the time and quite frankly ... we're trying to do both... protect the planet AND feed the masses.
An example: China has lost millions of acres of farmland due to massive water shortages. This in turn, does no allow them to grow the necessary food they need to support their own country. This is happening elsewhere. It's happening all over. Read the article I posted ... it's easy to have a cavalier attitude about the earth's resources when you've got a full belly and plenty of video games to play.
The concern over this planet is not misguided and here's why ... we don't want people to die. You would be right if all we were talking about was the overall survival of the earth itself. Yep, no problem, the earth will survive just fine. But since many of us are concerned more about the people living on this planet - we can't afford the luxury of sharing your attitude and just ignore the amount of resources that have been diminishing over the past 30 years. The article clearly states that if the all the nations of the world used what the US and the UK use in resources we would need two more planets just to sustain human life on this one. And the world is very quickly moving in that direction.
Ending on my original point: There is much concern by the scientific community that the human race could be in real trouble in the relatively near future.