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The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked?
RE: The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked?
(June 23, 2016 at 11:22 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(June 23, 2016 at 7:26 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: Proving Yahweh is just so easy, as demonstrated by his many proofs.

Step 1: Blah blah blah
Step 2: Blah blah blah
Step 3: Therefore Jesus. 
Where "blah blah blah" means all the stuff you don't want or try to understand. Skeptics just work like this:

Step 1: Misrepresent Chistrian theology
Step 2: Argue against straw man.
Step 3: Relish ignorance.

Step 1: Read the Bible from an un-indoctrinated perspective. 
Step 2: Read that God explicitly instructs people to commit child sacrifice, enslave each other, kill homosexuals, adulterers, unbelievers, witches, wizards, women who aren't virgins on their wedding night, to commit genocide against neighboring tribes and peoples, to take sex slaves as spoils of war. Read further that in the New Testament Jesus repeatedly says that all of the Old Testament laws still stand and must be upheld.
Step 3: Read the part where God exterminates the world's population of humans and land animals on a scale that puts Rwanda and the Final Solution to shame. 
Step 4: Hear some Christian apologist have the nerve to tell you that this God is moral and the source of all that is good and just.
Step 5: Laugh out loud but feel slightly indignant at having your intelligence so blatantly insulted. Wonder if they are actually serious. 
Step 6: Hear Christians claim to know better than the scientific community and continually misrepresent established science make absurd claims about the nature of the universe. 
Step 7: Roll eyes and worry for the future of civilization.
Step 8: Point out that all of the apologetic arguments for the existence of God have been repeatedly and exhaustively refuted and debunked. 
Step 9: Point out the logical fallacies and unmet burden of proof undermining their metaphysical claims.
Step 10: Realise that they aren't actually interested in truth, they only care about reinforcing their pre-existing belief system for emotional reasons, blinded to the fact that they have compartmentalised their irrational theological beliefs away from any logical and reason and empirical critique. 
Step 11: Hope that one day they will come to a point where just asserting a belief system isn't good enough and doesn't satisfy them and that they start to want to know what is actually true about the world in which they live.
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RE: The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked? - by Veritas_Vincit - June 23, 2016 at 12:01 pm

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