(April 25, 2011 at 10:46 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote:The population issue that Sae brought up - I actually agree with. We desperately need population controls and I would be the first to volunteer for a vasectomy if thats what it takes. But that does not fix the problems we already have and Sae's willingness to kill off people she doesn't care about is disturbing because it is that exact mindset that is going to bring the world to a violent end. If everybody wants everybody else to die except for them - where is that going to get us. Endless war.(April 25, 2011 at 7:13 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: So from what I can tell - everyone is in agreement that the human race is not going to become extinct anytime soon.
I'm in agreement for the most part.
So perhaps the question that should be posed - Do you think that we will soon face worlwide catastrophe in the next 50 years due to the reasons the study gives?? And will this (these) catastrophe(s) result in the deaths numbering in the millions?
I think it's very likely.
15 million children alone die of hunger each year already.
In the next 50 years, it may get very bad. How much we will be affected in the fisrt world will depend on the economy. It dosen't look good.
As Sea has pointed out, the problem is the Worlds population. The thing is we need to reduce the population, a very hard thing indeed. Not many are willing or able to do this. Its a hard moral choice, how do we reduce the population without affecting people rights.
Would you not have children if you could, would it make any difference.
Saerules Wrote:People do die, and I accept this. Do I want a few billion people to die? Absolutely.
Which few billion, your few billion or their few billion, or any few billion. But as others, and now myself, have said, would this be such a ba thing? Ofcourse it would be bad. But the survival of the human species needs this to happen. If we are to make it to the next level, hard decisions must be made, or hard things will happen automatically.
We can do it in less devastating/destructive manner ourselves, or we can wait and see what happens. Sadly, I think we are going to wait until it happens.
Cinjin Cain Wrote:I think the human race will be driven to the very brink of extinction before it can stop destroying this planet. Earth will be fine ... eventually ... as long as the majority of us aren't on it. Sadly.
I do understand the concept of, "thinning the herd", but I don't think she would be so cavalier if it was her house and her friends of whom the world decided to "thin".