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The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked?
RE: The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked?
(June 21, 2016 at 10:03 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: While it is not directly related to the topic, it is related to your objection.   That existence is not greater than non-existence.  This begs the question, of why you would make the choice.  If you reflect on that, then I think that you have the answer to your objection.  I think that it also answers you second objection as well.

I would make that choice based on a subjective desire for my own safety. This has nothing to do with whether an extant lion is greater than a non-existent one, but if it did, you'd need to rewrite your hypothetical to actually reflect the objection I made. Because you're missing out a key component of what I said, and if we add that back in, then the hypothetical actually goes like this: would I prefer to be in a cage with an extant lion, or with a non-existent lion with all of the same properties as the former, bearing in mind that the non-extant lion would still be able to maul me. You know, the maximally great non-existent being I was positing was still able to do the things that your extant maximally great being could do, so the non-existent lion would also need to do that: in that scenario my choice of which lion to face leads to functionally identical outcomes.

Quote:Wow.... is that really the way you think.... at this point, I'm wondering if no argument is greater than any argument.

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RE: The Ontological Argument - valid or debunked? - by Esquilax - June 27, 2016 at 1:22 pm

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