RE: Muslim Imam calls for Homosexual death 3 weeks before pulse nigh club shooting
June 28, 2016 at 6:48 pm
(June 28, 2016 at 4:51 pm)Veritas_Vincit Wrote:(June 28, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Drich Wrote: If you are an OT Jew yes, but even the jews now are not considered to be "OT Jews."
No actually he does not.
He said he did not come to change the law, He did not say it "still stands."
I'm afraid you are mistaken, Jesus did expressly say all the Old Testament law still applies:
Quote:Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven
This means that when God says to Abraham that:
Quote:Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.along with all the other ridiculous rules in that chapter, Jesus says you still have to follow them. Read the whole chapter here: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=KJV
And the problem this gives you is that if you do want to disavow the barbarism of the Old Testament, you undermine the Bible's only claim to authority, being that it is the word of God, and you undermine the notion that Christianity and the Bible are the source of Morality. So I would ask you: Do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? Is the Bible an accurate portrayal of God's character?
I would agree that there needs to be a lot more public condemnation for Islamic terrorist activities by Muslims. Islam would be easier to deal with if there was a centralized authority. I don't think that all 1.6 Billion Muslims are likely to be in favour of the murder of homosexuals, but I would be surprised if there were not many millions who are.
This is the problem with all religions, not even Buddhism or Hindus entire history has been completely violence free or sexism free.
I really get down on theists that others making bad claims mean we should do the same type of WW2 Germany scapegoating of entire labels. Nobody is in favor of Islamic based theocratic law. But we are also not in favor of our Christian right in the west trying to turn back the clock on human rights.
It is only western secular law that keeps the divisions to a more civil degree, not the religions themselves. There is not one religion worldwide as an umbrella label that does not have competing sub sects. The underpinnings of Christianity's former barbaric past are still based on the words in the bible.