Deliberate insofar as there is a lot of commentary on how the environmental movement has been hijacked by the socialist movement and changed from a group concerned about the environment to a group of activists more interested in social change. Can post links on this if interested.
Yes many especially the IPCC have said that TSI does nto affect global temps yet there are scientists and scientific papers who dispute the whole AGW theory
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/sppi_r...dings.html
What you need to look at is the temperature records. At least half the claimed warming from 1980 - 2000 is due to things from urban heat island effect, poor siting of stations, software warming biases, manipulation of data etc. When you get back to the raw records and look at satellite temps they correlate very well with the sun cycles.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckt...ming_.html
You also need to look at the CO2 record which does not correlate with the temperature record. For example from the 1940s - 1970s there was cooling whilst Co2 went up as there is now. We have not seen any warming for the last 10 years and the last 3 we have seen significant cooling which matches sun activity.
If you look at mans contribution to CO2 its around 3% of a trace gas CO2 that is less than 400 parts per million. Not only is there no correlation between CO2 rise and temps there is also no warming of the upper atmosphere consistent with the models. Reality is doing the opposite of what the Co2 theory says should happen.
Well the models are not only inaccurate but wildly inaccurate so much that the AGW theory fails and does not stand up to scientific method.
Here is a link to the satellite record for the earths temp - NO WARMING
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/03/rs...arch-2009/
http://icecap.us/
They can based on known cycles and trends. If the PDO (pacific decadel oscillation) is a known climatic cycle that has 30 years cooling, 30 years warming and scientists have said weve entered the cooling cycle then we are reaosnably sure based on previous experience and knowledge that this is fairly certain. What we are nto certain about is the depth of cooling due to the current inactivity of the sun. Livingston & Penn have done a paper that predicts based on the current observable lack of sun activity that by 2015 we may see no sunspots. Currently we are getting 1 a month. If L&P predictions be realised then based on previous experience the depth of cooling will be severe, and similiar to the Maunder Minimum of the LIA where crops and societies were decimated.
The definition of extreme weather would be the same for both hot and cold climates. My point is science shows us that during warm periods we have less hurricanes etc. What happens when the climate cools the collission of colder air masses with warmer air masses causes turnbulence, tornadoes, hurricanes etc
Yes many especially the IPCC have said that TSI does nto affect global temps yet there are scientists and scientific papers who dispute the whole AGW theory
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/sppi_r...dings.html
What you need to look at is the temperature records. At least half the claimed warming from 1980 - 2000 is due to things from urban heat island effect, poor siting of stations, software warming biases, manipulation of data etc. When you get back to the raw records and look at satellite temps they correlate very well with the sun cycles.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckt...ming_.html
You also need to look at the CO2 record which does not correlate with the temperature record. For example from the 1940s - 1970s there was cooling whilst Co2 went up as there is now. We have not seen any warming for the last 10 years and the last 3 we have seen significant cooling which matches sun activity.
If you look at mans contribution to CO2 its around 3% of a trace gas CO2 that is less than 400 parts per million. Not only is there no correlation between CO2 rise and temps there is also no warming of the upper atmosphere consistent with the models. Reality is doing the opposite of what the Co2 theory says should happen.
Well the models are not only inaccurate but wildly inaccurate so much that the AGW theory fails and does not stand up to scientific method.
Here is a link to the satellite record for the earths temp - NO WARMING
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/03/rs...arch-2009/
http://icecap.us/
They can based on known cycles and trends. If the PDO (pacific decadel oscillation) is a known climatic cycle that has 30 years cooling, 30 years warming and scientists have said weve entered the cooling cycle then we are reaosnably sure based on previous experience and knowledge that this is fairly certain. What we are nto certain about is the depth of cooling due to the current inactivity of the sun. Livingston & Penn have done a paper that predicts based on the current observable lack of sun activity that by 2015 we may see no sunspots. Currently we are getting 1 a month. If L&P predictions be realised then based on previous experience the depth of cooling will be severe, and similiar to the Maunder Minimum of the LIA where crops and societies were decimated.
The definition of extreme weather would be the same for both hot and cold climates. My point is science shows us that during warm periods we have less hurricanes etc. What happens when the climate cools the collission of colder air masses with warmer air masses causes turnbulence, tornadoes, hurricanes etc
