Physical man VS Spiritual man

[Ben Davis]

Hi, we've not talked before but I hope we can break some bread over this subject. My name's Ben. Pleased to make your acquaintance

I think even the layman can acknowledge that some arguments against god or a god are only arguments that go against an all good or all loving god, etc. Like the problem with evil. Maybe there is a god who is evil. Or before you post it, maybe the god of the bible is evil.

Indeed, any discussion is entirely dependent on the definition/description of the god/s in question or at very leat, the believer's core beliefs regarding the diety/ies. You've not given a definition yet (see my next point).

Regardless, lets say that god exists and after mankind falling away from his will only spiritually minded men and women can be attracted to him and know him.

Okay, the following terms need defining here: 'god', 'exists', 'falling away from his will', 'spiritually minded', 'attracted' & 'knowing'. Currently, this sentence only has accurate meaning to you.

To use an analogy, I am a heterosexual male. Some say that if I were gay it would be a choice, not natural. They might reason that they see no practical sense in why I would be attracted to the same sex, probably using their own personal experience as a reference point. But I am sure most atheist here would agree that if I were gay that it would most likely be my natural orientation. So why couldn't an atheist see that they might not understand a spiritually minded person from their own experience but that doesn't disqualify that persons spiritual orientation.

So you're suggesting that being 'spiritually minded' (definition TBC) is somehow a genetic/epigenetic trait? Do you have any evidence for this proposition?

But what if spirituality transcends the nature of humans. This could be the "evidence" faith is built on. Evidence is meant very loosely there.

What does this mean? I'm not sure you're speaking accurately here. Surely if spirituality transcends human nature, humans can't experience it.

If someone is gay, you don't question how he came to that conclusion.

Because all the best evidence indicates that sexuality is a genetic trait, expressed chemically & neurologically.

If someone has a unbreakable faith in god we assume it is based on so many faults.

Because all the best evidence indicates that religious faith is an indoctrinated ideology. An individual's 'propensity for faith' (is that what you mean by 'spiritually minded?) may be similar to sexuality but the specific type of faith, most certainly, is not.

I say that as one who is envious of that faith because I wish I strongly believed in god.

Why do you wish this? What is it about faith (irrespective of the specific type of faith) that you find attractive?

So is it possible that when we make objections against god like, could he make a burrito too hot to eat? If not then he is not all powerful, is basically akin to Ali-G asking Buzz Aldrin if man will walk on the sun one day.

No, it's not possible. On one hand, we have a challenge relating to an apparent logical contradiction in traits associated with a praticular set of god claims, on the other we have a comedian trying to get laughs by making deliberately stupid comments.

I look forward to your reply.