Lucifer

[madog]

I didn't want him to make me at all, Oh he didn't ... phew ....

I know if I made a Robot and could program free will and it went out and murdered raped, etc, etc I would take responsibility for my fuck ups and not blame my creation/robot by hiding behind the fact that I gave it free will .....

I would accept that it was a fuck up to design a robot that was unsuitable to handle free will ... and realise I was not a designer worthy of being worshiped ....

 Does that mean you would take total responsibility and pay for the crimes you caused. {1} The robot could only do what you put into it, leave out the bad stuff and it couldn't do bad things. {2}
 God on the other hand did not program bad things into man, {3} Adam and Eve took it upon themselves to experience the bad side through disobedience. {4} Lucifer was the one who introduced them to the possibility of new knowledge that would elevate them to a new level, they found out that knowledge caused them to become something they never desired, lying does have consequences and they fell for it. {5}

GC

{1} Yes ... although you seem to blame your fictional Gods creations for his fuck ups 

{2} Are you claiming your fictional God didn't give us the ability to Kill and rape? Free will to one side, he even ordered man to do such things .... so he not only gave us those capabilities he ordered some men to act on those capabilities 

{3) Oh he most certainly did .... If he existed he allowed us to do anything (until man existed there was no good or bad as regards man) .... He programmed man to feel pain when they hurt themselves, but not when they hurt someone else .... in fact he programmed some men/women to feel pleasure when they hurt others  ....

{4} I would consider that as kick starting them to do bad things so he could get them to do some of the shit he got off on later in the OT ....

{5} so now you blame one of your fictional Gods creations that fucked up, for fucking up his next creation? Using one fuck up as a defense for a defense of another fuck up sort of sums up your fucked up doctrine