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The Responsibility of Lucifer

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The Responsibility of Lucifer
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The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Because my father and I can't really talk about our lives in general, we only really communicate successfully when we talk about the general status of the world we live in. Of course, even this can get derailed quickly when he attributes hocus pocus to the various activities and ideologies we enjoy and maintain as humans.

Somehow in our conversation we randomly stumbled across teen pregnancy and abortion which led him into a tangent about why teens get pregnant. He even had a couple of good points about how television shows and music influence young minds to make foolish mistakes. However, he lost me with this one:
Quote:"Satan is everywhere and he has infiltrated the media. He is in every secular song and even some quote-on-quote (raised fingers) christian songs. He's using movies and music especially, and has mastered the subtle messages that our young girls are receiving. Lucifer is a deceiver and a liar, and he is the one responsible for the corruption of today's youth."

Question: How many christians believe this little theory? Ole beelzebub is busy in the sound studios and manipulating musicians minds?? I'm just curious, without having to provide any real statistics, how many christians do you think really buy into this?? Do all/most/some/hardly-any believe this bit of crazy?
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 4:14 pm
I want to know the mechanics behind this. Exactly what is Satan doing in these lyrics that apparently lead to teen pregnancy and sin? Wouldn't there be more teen pregnancies if Satan was that successful? Didn't I see some statistics saying it was actually on a decline?
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Well if Satan is responsible for all that stuff, he makes life livable.
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Maybe you should point out that teen pregnancy is down significantly since 1990. Also, rape and other violent crimes are down. From the point of view of many Christians, everything has been downhill since Eden by definition, so things must always be getting worse.
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 5:25 pm
(November 4, 2011 at 5:03 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Well if Satan is responsible for all that stuff, he makes life livable.

A fair point I suppose. Does that mean if there was no Lucifer, that there wouldn't be sin at all and that we wouldn't have figured out how to bang chicks and write music about the promotion of having a generally good time?
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Until angels learn how to play like Jimi Hendrix, fuck heaven.
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 4, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Exactly summer. Christians are giving seriously heavy credit to the devil, and I don't think I know too many musicians who would appreciate this.


Music is everything to me and the whole concept just irritates me.
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November 4, 2011 at 7:04 pm
That's the problem, dearest - "God" is supposed to be everything to you. They hate that music moves the soul like their invisible friend never could.
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November 5, 2011 at 12:20 am
(November 4, 2011 at 5:25 pm)Cinjin Wrote: A fair point I suppose. Does that mean if there was no Lucifer, that there wouldn't be sin at all and that we wouldn't have figured out how to bang chicks and write music about the promotion of having a generally good time?

We'd still be sinners but our music would completely suck. It would be as if every band sounded like Creed.
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RE: The Responsibility of Lucifer
November 5, 2011 at 12:54 am (This post was last modified: November 5, 2011 at 12:56 am by Erinome.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU5t_9sCdW8

Sounds like we need THE D... not Jesus.
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