(July 10, 2016 at 6:42 am)madog Wrote:(July 10, 2016 at 2:10 am)Godschild Wrote: Does that mean you would take total responsibility and pay for the crimes you caused. {1} The robot could only do what you put into it, leave out the bad stuff and it couldn't do bad things. {2}
God on the other hand did not program bad things into man, {3} Adam and Eve took it upon themselves to experience the bad side through disobedience. {4} Lucifer was the one who introduced them to the possibility of new knowledge that would elevate them to a new level, they found out that knowledge caused them to become something they never desired, lying does have consequences and they fell for it. {5}
GC
{1} Yes ... although you seem to blame your fictional Gods creations for his fuck ups
You seem to not have a real grasp about what God did even after I gave you a simple explanation.
madog Wrote:{2} Are you claiming your fictional God didn't give us the ability to Kill and rape? Free will to one side, he even ordered man to do such things .... so he not only gave us those capabilities he ordered some men to act on those capabilities
My God is not fictional and no He did not give Adam and Eve the ability to rape and kill, we obtained that knowledge when they disobeyed God. you need to read and study the Bible the answer is there in plain English in the first three short chapters.
madog Wrote:{3) Oh he most certainly did .... If he existed he allowed us to do anything (until man existed there was no good or bad as regards man) .... He programmed man to feel pain when they hurt themselves, but not when they hurt someone else .... in fact he programmed some men/women to feel pleasure when they hurt others ....
You are the most ridiculously minded person I've met here, go read the story and try to exert a little of your mind to understand we are arguing a story as it's written, not the story that you are making up as you go.
madog Wrote:{4} I would consider that as kick starting them to do bad things so he could get them to do some of the shit he got off on later in the OT ....
You're being completely stupid, there is no evidence of your accusation in the scriptures.
madog Wrote:{5} so now you blame one of your fictional Gods creations that fucked up, for fucking up his next creation? Using one fuck up as a defense for a defense of another fuck up sort of sums up your fucked up doctrine
My God is not fictional, you are making a claim you can't prove, if you have proof then bring it and it's not my responsibility to defend against your claim it's your responsibility to prove your claim. You have no idea what the doctrines of the scriptures are. If you continue to use such foul language 'I will quit responding to you'. Grown sensible people should not need such language to communicate, it shows only ignorance on the part of the user.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.