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[RoadRunner79]

I think that a circumstantial case can be made, that Jesus was the Son of God.  And some of it may be considered empirical evidence (seeing the miracles). 

Are you talking about a modern day automobile?   There where steam powered vehicles during Napoleon's time.   But yes, my first question would be, why they thought it was Napoleon Bonaparte.

You are being very dishonest here, you stated "The Gospel is based on empirical evidence as well" the Gospel is based on the Crucifixion of the "Son of God" .... Did you just make that statement to win another argument and hoped it would slip by?

I have asked for the empirical evidence for the Gospel because you said it exists ... not evidence that a some ordinary man was nailed to a cross, this is nothing special in Roman times and isn't the teachings of the Gospel ....

You are now saying "I think that a circumstantial case can be made, that Jesus was the Son of God" .... why are you wasting my time?



As for "steam powered vehicle" question, more of your equivocation   a) I explicitly stated the victim CLAIMED he was Napoleon Bonaparte  b) even if it was stated it was a one legged donkey drawn vehicle, their accounts were inconsistent with much stronger historical evidence ...

Wow... are you looking for the quickest opportunity to attack my character.   I can understand your point, and I do think that Jesus being the Son of God, is integral to the Gospel message.  However you are the one who brought up the topic "Son of God"; not I.  I don't know what empirical evidence you would expect to specifically show that Jesus was the "Son of God".  You can read what the authors attested to concerning him, and see if the evidence matches the claim.   I also notice that you only mention half of the Gospel.   Just so you are aware, the Gospel is not just that Jesus was just crucified to a cross as I referenced in 1 Corinthians 15.  You say I'm wasting your time, but you are not imbuing a lot of confidence in a good discussion yourself.

And just to clarify, I mentioned the steam powered vehicle, to ascertain the "when" of the claim in your statement concerning Napoleon.  This could be important to determine if the people making the claim where in a position to know the things they where claiming.