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RE: Speechless
(July 13, 2016 at 7:25 pm)bennyboy Wrote: About evolution.

I think it shows a horrible lack of faith in God to argue against science.  God made the Universe, and I would assume since the Christian God is not represented as a trickster god, that learning more about how the Universe is exactly to learn more about how God thinks.

The problem with Christians isn't that they believe in God, it's that they have to limit themselves with the Bible-- a collection of documents written thousands of years ago by relatively uneducated desert-dwellers.  They may have had spiritual ideas that they felt were of value, but their knowledge of the universe was clearly inferior to ours.

If you REALLY believe in God, then stop taking the word of Man, as writ in the Bible, and start taking the intent of God, as writ all over the practically infinite Universe, as your starting point.


For me personally (and I know I don't speak for others here), I wouldn't really be surprised to find that some kind of creative intelligent force underlies all the workings of reality.  If we could get closer to that, I'd really be excited.  But the backward views of Christians are a real cock-block in the search for anything really mystical or important in the Universe.

Have you ever heard of the idea of the two books of God? One of God's revelation, and one of God's work.

And I don't argue against science.... I like science, I think it is a good and useful tool. I am against scientism or the those who limit themselves to science alone as a source of knowledge. I also think that we can misinterpret either of the two books of God.
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