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Susan Haak Wrote:These are the “six signs of scientism” to which my title alludes.
Briefly and roughly summarized, they are:
1. Using the words “science,” “scientific,” “scientifically,” “scientist,”
etc., honorifically, as generic terms of epistemic praise.
Huh. Does that ever happen outside of crappy advertising? From her elaboration, she seems to blame any misinterpretation of preliminary scientific results on "scientism".
Quote:2. Adopting the manners, the trappings, the technical terminology, etc.,
of the sciences, irrespective of their real usefulness.
kind of tautological
Quote:3. A preoccupation with demarcation, i.e., with drawing a sharp line
between genuine science, the real thing, and “pseudo-scientific”
imposters.
That she is complaining about that is very suspicious.
Quote:4. A corresponding preoccupation with identifying the “scientific
method,” presumed to explain how the sciences have been so successful.
Seriously? Trying to identify the scientific method in order to find an explanation why the sciences are so successful is a sign of scientism? Someone has an axe to grind here.
Quote:5. Looking to the sciences for answers to questions beyond their scope.
again a bit tautological
Quote:6. Denying or denigrating the legitimacy or the worth of other kinds of
inquiry besides the scientific, or the value of human activities other than
inquiry, such as poetry or art.
Ok, I've never seen anyone seriously do that. but ok.

She has this collection of a variety of problems and non-problems and red herrings she wants to summarize as "scientism", from misinterpretation of scientific results, to the use of inappropriate methods, to the mere mention that there is such a thing as a successful scientific method? This seems very forced. I'm far from convinced that there is a unified thing that can sensibly called scientism and that is actually a problem.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 9:01 am
RE: Speechless - by Alex K - July 12, 2016 at 9:06 am
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RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 13, 2016 at 12:14 pm
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RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 12, 2016 at 10:39 am
RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 10:49 am
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RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 10:25 am
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RE: Speechless - by purplepurpose - July 12, 2016 at 11:11 am
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RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 12, 2016 at 1:35 pm
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RE: Speechless - by KevinM1 - July 12, 2016 at 12:45 pm
RE: Speechless - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: Speechless - by FatAndFaithless - July 12, 2016 at 2:58 pm
RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2016 at 5:13 pm
RE: Speechless - by Spirian - July 12, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 4:03 pm
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RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2016 at 5:16 pm
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RE: Speechless - by FatAndFaithless - July 12, 2016 at 1:51 pm
RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 12, 2016 at 3:06 pm
RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 12, 2016 at 5:39 pm
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RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 12, 2016 at 4:08 pm
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RE: Speechless - by purplepurpose - July 12, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 5:24 pm
RE: Speechless - by KevinM1 - July 12, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: Speechless - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Speechless - by purplepurpose - July 12, 2016 at 5:43 pm
RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2016 at 6:37 pm
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RE: Speechless - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Speechless - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 5:33 pm
RE: Speechless - by Czechlervitz30 - July 12, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Speechless - by account_inactive - July 12, 2016 at 5:44 pm
RE: Speechless - by purplepurpose - July 12, 2016 at 6:07 pm
RE: Speechless - by KevinM1 - July 12, 2016 at 6:36 pm
RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: Speechless - by downbeatplumb - July 13, 2016 at 1:41 pm
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RE: Speechless - by FatAndFaithless - July 13, 2016 at 8:48 am
RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 13, 2016 at 9:34 am
RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 13, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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RE: Speechless - by Thumpalumpacus - July 14, 2016 at 1:51 am
RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 14, 2016 at 12:39 am
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RE: Speechless - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Speechless - by Alex K - July 14, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 14, 2016 at 11:09 am
RE: Speechless - by KevinM1 - July 14, 2016 at 11:48 am
RE: Speechless - by Jackalope - July 14, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Speechless - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Speechless - by Alex K - July 14, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 14, 2016 at 1:10 pm
RE: Speechless - by madog - July 14, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Speechless - by Alex K - July 14, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 15, 2016 at 8:22 am
RE: Speechless - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 1:11 pm
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RE: Speechless - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2016 at 3:24 pm
RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 14, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: Speechless - by LivingNumbers6.626 - July 15, 2016 at 2:15 am
RE: Speechless - by Alex K - July 15, 2016 at 8:28 am
RE: Speechless - by robvalue - July 15, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Speechless - by RoadRunner79 - July 15, 2016 at 2:10 pm

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