(July 21, 2016 at 5:21 am)chimp3 Wrote: Lucifer says he can make Job say "God Damn it". God says "No you can't because Job is my bitch!". God agrees to let Lucifer have his way with Job...
Not Lucifer but Satan. Satan in the book of Job is not necceceraly a bad being, he's a prosecutor that lives in God's castle and indeed Hebrew word satan means "adversary"; that is, one who opposes.
When it comes to Lucifer it means The Shining One and it comes from primitive scoieties understanding of astronomy - more closely Venus. Venus is always seen from earth to be fairly close to the sun. When it is in that part of its orbit that puts it to the east of the sun, it shines out most clearly after sunset, and sets never more than three hours afterward. It is then visible only in the evening and is called the evening star.
When Venus is to the west of the sun, the planet rises first and for a short period of time (never more than three hours), it shines in the eastern sky as dawn gradually breaks. It is then the morning star. Primitive people considered the evening star and the morning star to be two separate bodies.
The Greeks, in the period when they thought Venus to be two bodies, called the evening star "Hesperos" (meaning west) and the morning star "Phosphoros" (ight-bringer). Romans then directly translated "Phosphoros" into Latin "Lucifer".
Also in ancient societies flattering courtiers would think nothing of naming their king the Morning Star, as though to imply that the sight of him was as welcome as that of the morning star heralding the dawn after a long, cold winter's night. This was really widespread and take Louis XIV of France, two and a half centuries ago, was well known as the Sun King.
When Lucifer is mentioned in Isaiah writer of the verses concerning Lucifer ironically described his fall from absolute power to captivity and death as the fall of the moring star' from the heavens to Hell.
With time, however, these verses came to gain a more esoteric meaning and by New Testament times, the Jews had developed, in full detail, the legend that Satan had been the leader of the "fallen angels."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
