RE: Fundies Will Be Shitting Bricks
May 6, 2011 at 8:22 am
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2011 at 8:32 am by reverendjeremiah.)
waldork Wrote:Actually he didn't have to take all the species aboard, but even if he did it would be more plausible than guessing a 5000 digit pin number on your first try which is the probability of abiogenesis ever happening. It's ok to have blind faith, I just think you have a bit too much of it.Typical YEC. Life from lifelessness is damn near impossible, but the Arc story is not only a historical document, but accurate 100%. Holy shit man, the arc story is nucking futs. I have met other people face to face who were 100% true arc believers, and to say they were a bit slow is an understatement. How do you like that with the plausability numbers. 5000 digit pin number? Why stop there? Why not say 10,000,000 digit pin number, or ten billion digit? If I had a team of people guessing all day every day at a 5000 digit pin number, how many days do you think it will take to guess it correctly? Why does it have to be on your first try. That isnt how biology works you fucking idiot.
BTW, just what are the chances of an all powerful, all knowing, god just always existing? If something as simple as RNA is as unlikely as trying to guess a 5000 digit pin number on the first try, then what are the chances of your all powerful, all knowig god just existing for eternity? As far as complexity goes, you cant get much more complex than a god. Even an entire universe is less complex than a god. I thought complexity was a sign of being created by a complex designer to you ignorant fuck heads? Therefore if God exists, he would be evidence of an even more complex designer that created him. But no, you will throw your logic out the window and special plead that gods complexity is the only thing that doesnt beg the question of a designer, in the same hand demanding that complexity is proof of a designer. You will come up with some weak "undesigned designer" bullshit. This special pleading is one of the many reasons why creationism was booted out of the sciences long ago. I find it funny that you point your finger at people and claim they are being illogical, when it was logic itself that tossed creationism out of the science class.
Waldork Wrote:Actually I am not stupid at all; my career and schooling demonstrate that. You just don't really have any valid logical response to my points so you resort to ad hominem. If this were a scored debate you'd be done at that point.Arguments from authority? You use arguments from authority in your first sentence and then claim I dont really have any valid logic? Of course I use ad hominem attacks. Why? Because you are a fucking idiot. As far as a scored debate, I would not even consider wasting my time with you. If I were a biology professor and you challenged me to a debate, I wouldnt even give you the time of day, much less discuss biology with the likes of you...but, by all means, feel free to join my class and learn something.
So, if you think YEC is logical, and you have plenty of convincing evidences for it, then by all means have your work published in a peer reviewed scientific journal. What are you wasting your time on this atheist forum when you have such world shaking evidence of YEC? Hurry up and publish your data. Im so excited. To think..I am talking to a legend. The man who finally produced convincing evidence that YEC is absolutely correct and that Natural selection is wrong. You are going to be so famous man. Do you know how many people have come before you and failed? Statler Waldorf - the man who single handedly took down our modern cosmology and proved without a doubt that YEC is fact. Oh, I would be made to look like such a fool that day. I would tell people; "Yes, we actually had THE Statler Waldorf on our atheist forums, but we were so foolish with foolish pride that we didnt listen to him. Now I know better and am a YEC. Thakyou Statler, for getting me saved!" Oh yes, that would be the day Waldorf. ...that would be the day.
waldork Wrote:Sure! You could do the math for yourself, but Dr. Sarfati already did it for us in his book (By Design) so I will just quote that. He also shows the probability of it occurring even if we spot you guys every particle interaction in the history of time, numbers are still not looking good for the abiogenesis crowd.That wasnt Sarfati. It was Sir Fred Hoyle, a British astronomer and mathematician, who calculated the odds at 1 in 10 to the 40,000 power against the proteins serving as enzymes in a cell all forming by chance. Hoyle used this calculation as proof that life on Earth was intelligently designed through Panspermia. Sir Fred Hoyles work to try and prove that Panspermia is a correct account for life on Earth has been often times Cherry Picked by YEC's and IDer's thinking that Hoyles claim supported a "fine tuning" of the universe. Hoyle has been called the "atheist for ID" and his work on origins is often cited as Hoyle's fallacy (sometimes called the junkyard tornado)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoyle%27s_fallacy
So I find it very amusing that a YEC would use an argument from a Panspermist. Strange how the theory of God putting life on Earth and the theory of Aliens putting life on Earth can use the exact same arguments.
This Hoyles argument has been refuted so many, many times. Keep walking people...nothing to see here....