(August 14, 2016 at 8:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(August 14, 2016 at 2:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Min, you certainly mischaracterized my point. I don't think they will care about one vote, but they sure as hell will care about hundreds of thousands. If you think the two majors don't care about preserving their places in the status quo, I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying.
One thing I do know is that trying more of the same will probably get us more of the same.
Thump, millions of people don't vote at all and you know what. They don't really give a shit about them, either. I appreciate what you are trying to say but I think you are kidding yourself. Johnson/Stein are not a threat. Therefore they do not give a flying fuck about either of them.
And pretending that Hillary and Drumpf are "the same" is simply intellectually dishonest.
Yep, it is a mistake to make our political process about 1 politician in a three branch system. It is one thing to point at Hillary's flaws or mistakes as an individual, but when you speak about ideas as a collective national idea, the two parties are not the same. Progressives, not politicians, but as voters and non politicians are on the right side of history. The voters of the GOP as voters are not. Progressives want livable wages and more economic power for workers, we want equal pay for women. We value reproductive rights. We value minority rights and LGBT rights. We value affordable education and universal health care. The only lagit criticism about our politicians over the past 36 years is that they have allowed the GOP to control the narrative and have been too compromising. But it is also voter apathy especially in midterms and GOP gerrymandering that has not helped.